Kilo66 Posted February 17, 2015 Share #1 Posted February 17, 2015 I'm planning to embark on a build of the venerable USS Constitution 1/96 scale kit in which much of the decking will be omitted and the port side hull opened to allow an interior view. I'd also like to try a similar scale scratchbuilding project, a sectional cutaway of the Constitution (rather like the Mamoli kit but centered on the ship's wheel area). In either event, I'd like to try to include the recessed skylight hiding under the gratings of the small deck fixture immediately forward of the wheel. I know it's there. I've seen it mentioned in a few sources but none had pictures. A Google Image search came up snake eyes. I vaguely recall being told it was noted on the plans of the Model Shipways 1/96 kit but don't have those plans in the hoarde of paperwork, plans, and scrap drawings I'm accumulating. If anyone does have those plans (and if they do show the construction of the skylight itself, rather than just mentioning it's lurking below the grating), I would REALLY appreciate it if you could be so kind as to post the relevent drawings here. Ditto for any photos of the real thing on the actual Constitution. I've tried the MSW search bar but got nada for "Constitution recessed skylight" or several other word combinations. I thank you, ladies & gentlemen, for any aid you may see fit to render. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 17, 2015 Share #2 Posted February 17, 2015 If no luck on the relevant area (please don't post the full plan sheet as that's a copyright issue), you can buy the plans here: http://www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=MSPL2040 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted February 18, 2015 Share #3 Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) I just checked my plans and the drawing is there on sheet 5 but it's very small ( a half-dollar would cover it). Also after seeing TimI"s Constitution thread, he posted a picture that will help much more than the plans anyway. If it was me, I'd save your money on the plans, unless you're planning to do your scratch-build in 1:76.8 scale (5/32" = 1 ft). At that scale, your ship will end up at 4 ft, instead of the 3 ft, at 1:96 scale. The skylight is located on the starboard side right next to the grate. Edited February 18, 2015 by GLakie Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilo66 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted February 18, 2015 Thanks muchly for the guidance, gents. You've saved me time, money, and agro. GLakie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted February 18, 2015 Share #5 Posted February 18, 2015 As a long-term project, go to Boston. There is a large scale model there you can take a look at. GLakie, CaptainSteve, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted February 18, 2015 Share #6 Posted February 18, 2015 If there wasn't so much snow around here I'd go take a picture for you. Modeler12, GLakie and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeler12 Posted February 19, 2015 Share #7 Posted February 19, 2015 Go for it Henry. A little snow should not be a big problem for you Easterners. Seriously though, what are the deadlines for visiting and its subsequent repair work on the ship? Where will this be done? Just curious because we do want to take a trip east and see her again.Ten years would be too long for me. GLakie 1 Quote Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted February 21, 2015 Share #8 Posted February 21, 2015 Because of all of the weather delays the scheduled March 20 dry docking has been pushed to April. She is going to be there for three years. I say "there" like it is so far away, but in reality the dry dock is just on the other side of the pier from where she is now. So far the Navy anticipates the ship will stay open for visitors depending on the scope of work going on at the time. Obviously, there are safety concerns with a ship being worked on over a 40 foot deep hole in the ground. mtaylor, GLakie and trippwj 3 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 21, 2015 Share #9 Posted February 21, 2015 That's good news, Henry. I didn't realize the drydock was that close. GLakie 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted February 21, 2015 Share #10 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) The dry dock is the second oldest in the country. Constitution was the first ship in. Edited February 21, 2015 by popeye2sea GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted February 21, 2015 Share #11 Posted February 21, 2015 I went aboard the ship today to search out the deck prisms. These are let into the gun deck to focus light down into the berth deck. There are a few of them located in the officers berthing area (ward room) aft on the berth deck. As you can see they are hexagonal and flat on top and shaped like a prism from below. By the way the extra shoring beams are there in preparation for the upcoming dry docking. Here is the top of one on the gun deck just forward of the Captains cabin. And here is from below: Regards, CaptainSteve, dafi, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpsutton2 Posted February 26, 2015 Share #12 Posted February 26, 2015 The pictures are nice but if you were there.......how much usable did you find they transmitted all the way down? Quote Drown you may, but go you must and your reward shall be a man's pay or a hero's grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted February 26, 2015 Share #13 Posted February 26, 2015 The light they provide is really not much. Look at my two pictures from below the fitting. The first was with the camera flash and the second without. You can see that there is a definite glow from the prism. But, considering that they are the only source of light other than a lantern, I think they do an admirable job. Regards, GLakie 1 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lehmann Posted February 26, 2015 Share #14 Posted February 26, 2015 Google has a 360 interactive "scan" of all the decks. The's a link to another from the museum website https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/streetview/us-highlights/uss-constitution-deck/Jjoh75kl7doAAAQZN_qRbA?gl=us&heading=317&pitch=74&fovy=75 GLakie 1 Quote Bruce Stay Sharp - Stay Safe Judgement comes from experience: experience comes from poor judgement. USS Constitution: Scratch build solid hull 1:96 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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