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I had some bad problems like that and I can't see a lot you can do  :( 

You think everything is perfect until you put the top coat on as it were

I presume the craftsmen who build the museum quality ships must use a lot of jigs and templates to get everything true

As I do this for enjoyment I think doing things like that could almost turn like w**k for me

I know lots of people can do it happily

I am not one of those I am afraid

I think it looks fine  :) 

 

Keep it up  :10_1_10: 

Mick

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I found some time again and decided to spend it on the project

 

I have now managed to place the keel.

I’m now very pleased that I decided to replace the supplied plywood parts of the kit with Mahogany wood.

 

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I’m especially pleased with the bow section, even so knowing that some of it will disappear behind battens ? later on in the build..

 

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Note: the last section was too short (unfortunatly I made all sections the same length as the supplied ones) so I had to extend the last one in the row

..not the best fix i have done so far but i didn't felt like exchanging the complete section..

Best wishes, Theo

 

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Hej Theo,

In the situations like these, I prefer to joint two parts not in straight line but in an untidy line with white glue. After this I make some small jags with the point of a blade begining from the main part to the adjunct part following the grains of the wood. Then with some stain I darken the jags which seem now like grains... I wet the area a little then perform some work with sandpaper. This work may break the dominant eye-catching wiev of the straight line between two parts.

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Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

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I continued with the battens.

 

The first challenge I faced was to find a way to bend them with the curves of the bow.

I found out that these walnut strips are not that easy to position without having them shaped first.

The solution: I found a suitable coffee cup  :)

 

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After having them soaked and dried on the coffee cup the rest was a piece of cake..

 

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Bending the strips on the stem was a bit easier but I had to be a bit creative with the clamps…

 

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Note:
I just copied the premade holes in the stem from the original, but these "original" holes were completly misplaced as i have positioned the strips & battens slightly different..
So I closed them again with scratch wood and re-positioned them after all battens & strips on both sides were glued in place..

 

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Here’s the current state of the bow section with and without figurehead

 

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Great work Theo

Looks really good

Can take a long while to find something JUST the right size can't it  :P

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Thank you for your compliments guys it is really appreciated.. 

Yes indeed Mick you’re absolutely right..

As a matter of fact it took me ages to find this very advanced, "nicely shaped" and coloured cup-tool    :P

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The result of your labor and skill is very nice and the contrast between the colors...

Like also the clean and clear workmanship of the figurehead provided by the kit I suppose, there are no burrs... Fine quality...

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Ferit KUTLU

 

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Thank you Ferit, your compliment is appreciated.

I agree the figurehead is nicely done, of a good quality and it was indeed included in the kit ..

So no sculpturing for me this time  :mellow:

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Best wishes, Theo

 

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The finish between the deck and hull on the bow section annoyed me right from the beginning.

 

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Somehow I thought this was going to be covered by either a Samson post or an head rail later in the build.

Today I found out that it actually will not be covered, so I made the decision to remove carefully a section of the deck strips

 

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And placed new ones with more precision

 

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Taa-daa !! :)  the annoying feelings are gone and it didn’t even took that long to fix 

 

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Yup, as they all say

Great fix Theo

Looks a lot better

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Thank you all, :)

 

inspired by this little fix i'm moving ahead.. 

according to the instructions: The heads are glued into place..

 

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As I found this a bit too basic I decided to modify them a bit before gluing them into place

 

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I like the consistency of the planks already and can't wait to glue them into place..

 

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Best wishes, Theo

 

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Continuing with the heads and a nice opportunity to tried out my newly arrived toy  :)

 

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I decided to purchase a proxxon drill stand (MB200) with the compound table KT70 for my micromot 50/EF instead of buying a (proxxon) Bench drill press

 

The main reason for this was that I also can use this setup when I need to drill in different angles (besides the fact that it is also a cheaper solution)

Additionally I can now also use it for several other applications like milling and grinding as the micromot easily can vary speeds from  5000-20.000 rpm .

I already had the optional food-switch for the micromot so I can also easily start the machine without removing my hands from the subject.

So far I’m very pleased with the setup

 

Underneath some pictures after the install of the heads & the doors (I allready made these doors earlier in the build) and opening up for the anchor davits in the bulwarks.

 

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Best wishes, Theo

 

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Looking really good Theo

There's a lot going on there already

Lovely bit of planking

Great job

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Hi Theo,

 

Congrats with the new toy.

I want to buy that standard for the drill…..

I have all ready the cross table (KT 70)  :D  :D

Looks perfect ( the build )

 

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So i have this kit too and am slightly ahead of you (but to a less standard). What do you think of the idea of using  3mmx1mm ramin between the gunport frames so that they don't stick out as far? 

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Thank you Sjors & Randy for your kind words, it is really appriciated 

and Sjors i can really recomment the drill stand setup "it's like a dream.."  

 

Hej Demonborger

 

I copied the cast metal gun port frames from the kit and it haven’t crossed my mind that these Gunport frames maybe stick out to much  :)

 

How do they look on your build, I asume you used the provided frames ?

How far are you with the ST, are you considering a Build log on MSW as well ? 

Best wishes, Theo

 

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Continuing with the Samson posts.

I decided to redo the bow waterway and bow limber board with mahogany wood cut out of a 1,5 mm sheet

 

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And bend the side limber boards into the curved shape of the hull before gluing them into position

 

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After this I fitted the bow limber board

 

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And manufactured the bow Samson posts as well as the side Samson posts

Instead of just gluing them on the limber board I decided to add a Ø1mm “fixing stick” and drilled holes in the limber board .

Hopefully this addition will keep them in place during the rest of the build  :P

 

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I added all limber boards and the (so called ?) Waist coming & quarter deck Finial planks.

Here’s the result so far.

 

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Super work Theo

Really nice clean posts

All the same size, unlike some of mine  :( 

They really really looks good  :cheers: 

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Thank you Mick & Tom for the compliments , it is as always appreciated 

 

But they are not so perfect as they seem..

Especially a closer (macro picture) will show that not all of them have the same angle on all sides

 

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I think I made the following mistake:

I tried to make them as uniform as possible by using my table saw adjusted to 12 degrees.

Which was not a bad idea, but by not removing  the shavings after cutting a particular side it caused (slightly) different angles on all the other sides

 

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.. This I didn’t noticed .. instead i learned from it  

Best wishes, Theo

 

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As long as we learn from our mistakes or that of others then we are getting better each time, it's the little things that we don't notice until later and we say to our self why didn't I see that. The next time it will not go un-notice. Thanks for showing us all how the mistake happen.

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