jollyroger

Jollyroger -

 

Maybe I can help with your confusion about the raw materials. It can be hard, with European kits, to identify one wood versus another. In general, African Walnut is dark, Mukali is light in color, and Sapele may be in between the two. There is a pretty decent database of woods that has pictures located here - http://www.wood-database.com/ Between similar-colored woods, you may have to rely on the overall dimensions (width and thickness) to tell them apart. That site I mentioned above doesn't list Mukali, but you can do a Google image search for it to find examples.

 

As to the lengths, you want to think about what they are used for. For example, you list "hold planking" at 155mm and "hull planking" at 730mm. What they are saying here is that you'll need 26 pieces, each 155mm long, to plank the hold. Since all the planking material is 730mm long, you'll need to cut those hold planks to length. Some may not wind up being a full 155mm long but none will be longer than that because of the small area you're planking. For the outside of the hull, on the other hand, they're telling you that you may need some long planks so you're starting out with the ones that are 730mm long. You will, of course, have to cut some of them shorter as you proceed. In other words, if they show you a length that is shorter than the overall length of the raw material, they expect you to cut it to the length they list.

 

This, of course, can make it difficult to check the contents of a kit. For example, you can only get four 155mm planks out of a 730mm length of raw stock and then you'll have a 110mm (or so) piece left over. That might be long enough to use in some other area or it may wind up just becoming scrap. Most kit manufacturers give you more wood than you should need. But if you have just opened the kit and you see a bunch of 730mm long pieces of wood, it may not occur to you to think about how many 155mm pieces that will make. Since the list shows you'll need 26 planks for the hold, that means if you can get 4 of those planks from each long strip, you'll need 7 long strips. Plus, you'll need 44 strips of the same dimension wood for the hull planking, so you should have at least 51 strips of that raw material. Likely you will have more.

 

I hope that helps to clear up your confusion a bit.

 

Cheers -

John

Thanks John! I was going to search online for pictures of wood. The link you attached is a big help.

Hi Everyone,

                    like the OP, I'm a novice building the Jolly Boat of HMS Bounty and while I don't have a concrete problem there is something in the instructions that puzzles me and I'm hoping one of the experts here can clarify something for me.

 

As an ex IT person I have a habit before I start anything of studying the instructions (manual) carefully to ensure I have everything to hand so to speak and have an idea of what I'm going to need to do. 

 

My problem? well in the parts listing,  in each section you have 7 different languages, I speak three of them and can get by in another two, the columns in the listing are :- Ref, Description,  Quantity, Size, Material, the languages are Spanish, English, French, German, Italian, Portuguese and Dutch 

 

The problem? well in Ref 15 the first four languages have under Quantity  4 pieces whereas the final three languages have quantity 1, in Ref 16 the first four have quantity 2 whereas the last three have quantity 1, in Ref 17 the first four quantity 6, the last three quantity 1, in Ref 19 first four quantity 2 pieces the last three quantity 1.

 

I was going to stop at Ref 19 but further reading shows discrepancies Ref 61 where the situation ifs reversed i.e the first 4 languages have quantity 1 whereas the last 3 have quantity 2, in Ref 69 we come back to first four having quantity 4 and the last three have quantity 2 and so it goes, suffice to say apart from the above mentioned Ref's with discrepancies the same situation is found in Ref's 70, 72,79, 80,81,82,83,85,86,88,89.

 

For the life of me I cannot imagine why Italian, Portuguese and Dutch have either less pieces or more pieces in different sections I also noted that the Material for these languages is frequently Manzonia,  the others are African Walnut.

 

I'd really appreciate it if someone could please cast any light on this issue, even if it is to tell me I'm over analysing the situation :-) 

 

My apologies if the custom on this site is to always start new threads rather than bumping old ones 

mfh, Did you get any answers on the parts list question? I am attempting to build the AL H.M.S Bounty 1:48. I can't understand the parts list. Mine is only in english. I can't match up the parts list and pictures with the various types of planks and strakes. I've used a digital caliper to attempt to measure and match but not having any success.

For example The parts list shows:

No.    Description                                     Qty                  Measurements   Material

                                                                                        in mm.

17      Planking strakes/hatch 1st deck    11                    0,6x5x30             Mukali

20     Hold Planking                                  26                   1.5x5x155           African Walnut

41     Hull planking                                    44                   1,5x5x730          African Walnut

46     Gunwales outer planking                 11                    1,5x7x730         Sapelia

I believe the quantity refers to the number needed of that particular part no./length. Where the measurement for item no. 17 would be .6 mm x 5 mm and 30 mm long. Each plank appears to be 730 mm total length but they are telling me I need to cut to 30 mm length and use 11 pieces? 

Nothing was labeled and sorted to determine which planks are which.

Any help?

I too am attempting to build this kit. I've owned it for more than 20 years! It sat on a shelf all that time. My question is how to identify the correct plank parts for the decks and hold. I do not see any markings as indicated in the rather poor instructions. Some of the plank parts are very similar in color and thickness. Anyone have a suggestion?

Thanks!