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Need some help identifying this wood. I had it in a box with some Honduran mahogany and assumed that’s what it was, but then realized that a) the grain was much finer, b) the color was much lighter, and c) I’ve never seen a piece of mahogany with that miniature figuring in it… whatever it is it appears to be quartersawn. Could it be Swiss pear? Cherry? I’m not familiar with pear, except as veneer. The color seems right for either one, anyway. Dave V.
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Bienvenu! Beautiful work… and your English is far better than my French 😄 By coincidence I was at the Museo Naval in Madrid earlier today, and took about 20 reference photos of the beautiful large-scale model of Santissima Trinidad built by Felíx Moreno Sorli between 1990-2000. If it would be helpful to you, please send me a message and I will email them. And if anyone else is interested I can also post them here on the forum. Dave V.
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You definitely could get a job at IKEA… but only if the entire store was small enough to fit in a shoebox… 😄 Beautiful work.
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Treasure Galleon La Nuestra Señora de Atocha, 1620
davos522 replied to davos522's topic in Nautical/Naval History
A better pic of the recovered cannon. Whether this was part of the ship’s battery, or cargo I don’t know; wish I’d taken a photo of the placard.
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Treasure Galleon La Nuestra Señora de Atocha, 1620
davos522 replied to davos522's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Frolick, ¡muchas gracias for posting the link to that PDF! Great stuff… much of the exhibit at the Archives of the Indies in Sevilla had to do with the wreck and recovery, and featured some relics and even one of the original underwater search “drones”. One of the recovered cannons can just be glimpsed in the background of my pic of the stern (which somehow got rotated 90° when I uploaded it). If I’m not mistaken the photo of the model on p 104 is a promo shot from Artesania Latina of their model of the galleon San Francisco II, rather than Nuestra Señora; the authors were apparently just using it to illustrate what a bumpkin/boomkin looked like. But the bottom line is that there were never any contemporary pictures of her, so educated guesswork is going to figure largely in any reconstruction anyway. Allan, I hope when you do make it over to Key West you’ll take lots of photos. Dave (PS - while you’re there can you cat-nap me one of Hemmingway’s six-toed felines? Always wanted to add one to the menagerie :-)) -
Treasure Galleon La Nuestra Señora de Atocha, 1620
davos522 replied to davos522's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Thank you all. It was a beautiful model indeed, and seemed new. Looked like a lot of dubloons went into all that Swiss pear... Artesania Latina is located just outside Seville; I wonder whether they were involved at all? And Allan, if I read the exhibit signage aright (my Spanish is woefully inadequate) then the Señora was also carrying guns as cargo, which might explain at least part of the discrepancy; and the Wikipedia article contains the following: The Atocha alone carried cargo whose estimates range between $250 and $500 million, including silver from Bolivia, Peru and Mexico, gold and emeralds from Colombia, and pearls from Venezuela, as well as more common goods including worked silverware, tobacco, and bronze cannons. Be interesting to know how accurate the model really is, do they have one at the Fisher museum I wonder? Dave -
Treasure Galleon La Nuestra Señora de Atocha, 1620
davos522 posted a topic in Nautical/Naval History
Model of the Treasure Galleon “La Nuestra Señora de Atocha”, 1620 in the Archives of the Indies in Seville, Spain. No date or scale available—unfortunately my photo of the placard was unreadable—although it looked to be about 1:48. This is the galleon that foundered in a hurricane off the Florida Keys 400 years ago this September, and was found in 1985. The estimated value of her cargo, including gold, silver, and Columbian emeralds, was USD $500,000,000. Give or take…
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Finally decided to say hello after lurking for a while. I’ve been a modeler since the early 1960s, mostly 1:48 WWI aeroplanes in plastic & resin, but have always wanted to try my hand at a wooden ship. I actually started a scratchbuilt 1:96 Dos Amigos/Fair Rosamund about twenty years ago from the Chapelle drawings, but made the mistake of carving the hull out of Honduran mahogany… and it was so beautiful when I got it done that couldn’t bear to paint or copper her, and the project languished. Live and learn. Question: I’m actually in the process of walking the Camino de la Plata from Seville north to Santiago de Compostela, and was able to get some relatively decent photos of the beautiful model (quarter scale?) of the treasure galleon la Nuestra Señora de Atocha from 1620 in the naval museum on the banks of the Guadalquivir River. Would there be any interest in my posting them? And if so, what sub-forum would be the appropriate one? Dave
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