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Hi Paul and many others, Awaiting arrival of my elusive white Vallejo acrylic, I've on and off been busy clearing the garage of 40 years of accumulated "useful junk" and glued together a small "painting station". The brush holders are protective plastic tubes for disposable injection needles, etc. Now the painting! 🤠
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Now, Allan, that's the reply I will base myself upon, the pictures in the link are perfect for my purposes, as well as the concise "clean line" recommendation. Cheers!!! Paul
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Hoi...very reasonable, in fact, you appear to be saying that the actual line of immersion was ... somewhat "beautified" by the (shipowner) which, eventually, was authenticated by poop sag. I assume there are many factors, not in the least that deeper bow immersion slows a ship down, and the visual indication by way of a painted waterline would be considered an easy guideline. Awaiting consolidation of the acquired (assumed) knowledge, I've just realized I forgot to order the white Vallejo acrylic 😵💫 but that's been meanwhile rectified. Paul
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Thankee Roger! Brilliant reply, which I tend to understand from previous experience and developed primitive Excel predictions of modern vessels' cargo capacity under circumstances of departure and arrival port limitations. At best, these were approximations, with ships more resembling cubic boxes than my ... elegant British cutter's sleek hull shape. And, in terms of "ancient" wooden sailing vessels, I feel it's very much a matter of appearance, if not outright copycat behavior. And I suppose, as (and to the degree that) my modelbuilding progresses, I assume I may not necessarily continue in a completely "correct" manner. Such as leaving out the cannon altogether, saving (fickle) future time. And I'm deeply worried about how on earth I'll manage the rigging. But that's a motivation to continue! Paul
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Hi, it's Paul again, still collecting pore filler, paint, etc... before continuing on my "Lady Nelson". I did prepare the normally submerged part of the hull for application of color by putting masking tape just about where I've observed others having done. I've seen various, different, "waterlines" and I tried to search the subject, but not found anything really. So ...where is that elusive "waterline" located? It should be easy, right? And, of course, the waterline varies with the deadweight, the hull's immersion increasing with the gross weight of stores, fresh water, crew and belongings, as well as the salinity of the water... What, from a viewpoint of, say, 1800, is a proper approach? ...thanks once again for your much appreciated comments. I'm really curious, too! Safe sailing! Paul
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Did 18th and 19th century ships have flat weatherdecks?
Rushdie replied to Rushdie's topic in Nautical/Naval History
That sounds very logical and reasonable, thank you! The Lady Nelson kit I have doesn't provide for camber, and I'll have to consider whether I'll take the risk of complicating this, which is my first, build. -
I'm building Lady Nelson and have reached the planking of the weatherdeck. I was wondering, were decks in those times "flat", or is the centerline "higher" than the deck level at the whales, enabling any water to be evacuated naturally through the scuppers? I've boarded many contemporary ships in my life, and only once have I seen a vessel (Norwegian, built around 1949) where absolutely every "horizontal" surface was curved slightly downwards towards both boards.
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Thanks for the welcome and, I would add, don't worry about my health...as Spirit sang "It's Nature's Way" and that's just fine! So, that weatherdeck...I took a photocopy of the deck plan, and glued the planks onto that with a weak glue stick. Then I sand the paperbacking, rendering it real thin. I intend to cement the entire ceiling onto the vessel's false deck in one go. I don't yet know which glue, wood glue or superglue, I will use, and I'll probably ensure the whole ceiling be wet .. It's an adventure... I'm now waiting for the glue, the "Clou Schnellschleifgrundierung G1" sanding sealer, the various Vallejo model colors...before proceeding.
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I'm Paul, I'm a Belgian and worked in the shipping industry all of my active life, retired since 2014. I started building Victory's "Lady Nelson" back in 2010, my first ever attempt at building a wooden ship model, but didn't get beyond the second planking of the hull mostly because I moved to a new job in the Netherlands. Last week I picked up the project again (after admiring the bare hull for ten years or more...) and just about completed planking the weather deck. In February last year I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, I thought I'd kick the bucket within a week but ... still there, I hope to finish the model, hence my name Rush-die. My hobbies used to be wine (tastes change with chemotherapy), I roast coffee and still like espresso, I cook Thai for Irène and myself a few times each week, and I love good music, from classical to country & western, jazz and rock and I'm happy with my vintage hi-fi. This site is my only guideline in building a wooden ship model. I work dead-slow and sometimes get tangled up in seemingly unsurmountable details, but I believe it's better to try to plan a sequence. So, here we are....
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Hi Walter, I'm Paul from Zaventem, pleased to welcome someone from the beautiful city of Liège, a city with which I have some old connections as half my very reduced family is closely associated with that very interesting old city.
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