RiverRat Posted June 3, 2013 #1 Posted June 3, 2013 Title says it. I'm approaching a point in my 1780s privateer Rattlesnake build where I may need to keep this in consideration. Are the top surfaces horizontal side-to-side or would they match the deck's camber? Maybe not a significant detail, but, well y'all know how nit-picky we can be sometimes.......... Brian Quote "Give you joy!" Current Build: RATTLESNAKE 1:64 POB (Mamoli) Kits on hand: "Lexington", Mamoli: "Robert E. Lee", Scientific Scratch to do: "Fannie Dugan", 1870s Sidewheeler Steamboat
russ Posted June 3, 2013 #2 Posted June 3, 2013 They are horizontal. The caprail does not match the deck's camber. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
russ Posted June 3, 2013 #3 Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) I am sorry Janos, but the rails should be horizontal. I have never seen a plan where the rails match the camber of the deck. See this cross section of an American merchant ship from the mid 19th century. Note the rails do not match the camber of the deck. Russ Edited June 3, 2013 by russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
russ Posted June 4, 2013 #4 Posted June 4, 2013 Janos: He is referring to the caprails at the top of the bulwarks. That is in the thread's title. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
RiverRat Posted June 4, 2013 Author #5 Posted June 4, 2013 Very good! Thanks for the discussion and drawings gents. I had thought mirroring the camber might look more "elegant", but horizontal it is. Janos, your "ugly" rail reminds me of a couple of Rattlesnake taffrails I've run across. Those would certainly scream to be camberized. Brian Quote "Give you joy!" Current Build: RATTLESNAKE 1:64 POB (Mamoli) Kits on hand: "Lexington", Mamoli: "Robert E. Lee", Scientific Scratch to do: "Fannie Dugan", 1870s Sidewheeler Steamboat
russ Posted June 4, 2013 #6 Posted June 4, 2013 Brian: The taffrail is the caprail across the stern. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
RiverRat Posted June 4, 2013 Author #7 Posted June 4, 2013 Brian: The taffrail is the caprail across the stern. Russ Yup, fully aware of that. But concerning an ugly taffrail that might be like what Janos was thinking of...for example: Quote "Give you joy!" Current Build: RATTLESNAKE 1:64 POB (Mamoli) Kits on hand: "Lexington", Mamoli: "Robert E. Lee", Scientific Scratch to do: "Fannie Dugan", 1870s Sidewheeler Steamboat
russ Posted June 4, 2013 #8 Posted June 4, 2013 Okay, I reckon that might be considered odd. I would need to see how it appeared on the original plan. If it was like that on the original plan, then I would prefer to see it that way on the model. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
RiverRat Posted June 4, 2013 Author #9 Posted June 4, 2013 On p.4 of my build log is a stern view of the Admiralty (I think) drawing. It has a slight but apparent arch, much like the deck camber and not as much as the carved decoration, but that little bit makes a world of difference in appearance (to me at least). Quote "Give you joy!" Current Build: RATTLESNAKE 1:64 POB (Mamoli) Kits on hand: "Lexington", Mamoli: "Robert E. Lee", Scientific Scratch to do: "Fannie Dugan", 1870s Sidewheeler Steamboat
russ Posted June 4, 2013 #10 Posted June 4, 2013 That curve on the taffrail might be an inch or two, but not much more. It is all but horiztonal. I see what you mean though about the aesthetics. A slight curve in the taffrail is a nice touch. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
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