khale Posted March 22, 2014 #1 Posted March 22, 2014 I am a very experienced woodworker (big stuff). I have never built a model ship ,except the plastic stuff I built as a kid. I was a deck hand on the three masted square rigged Ragina Maris when I was a young man, and I've always wanted to own a gaff-rigged schooner. My wife bought me the Baltimore II for Christmas. I love the idea and have always loved replicas of sailing vessels. All that being said, I am only to the keel portion of building the only schooner I will probably ever own, the Baltimore II (MS2120). She's not as big as I dreamed, but she's pretty cool. Anyway, the keel rabbet doesn't make any sense to me. The taper on the keel makes perfect sense, but the actual keel sticks a bit below the keel piece that the bulkheads glue into. Tapering the bottom of the keel piece and then gluing the actual keel onto it makes no sense. This is one the very first steps in making my schooner, so I want to get it right. Also, the instructions mentions dowels and tacks but give no specifications for either. While I can see the utility of dowling the actual keel, I need to know what to use (tiny dowels?). As to tacks, they are apparently used throughout to tack down decking, hull, etc. What should I use? Last question (for now), can someone explain to me what the bearding line is and why everything needs to be tapered to that point so that it all fits? Thanks, Ken Hale Quote
James H Posted March 22, 2014 #2 Posted March 22, 2014 This is a question about modelling, not website issues, so I'm moving to appropriate forum. Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
timo4352 Posted March 22, 2014 #3 Posted March 22, 2014 I'm just cutting the rabbet on mine now. I re-read that section of my instructions many times before I started cutting. I just posted some pics of the rabbet - the way I understand it from my instruction sheet, on my Pinky build log. Maybe seeing some pics might help... http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/5954-glad-tidings-pinky-schooner-by-timo4352-model-shipways-scale-124/#entry171946 What you want is to have the planking lie flush with the edge of the keel - so the plank sits down into the rabbet. Does that make sense? I hope I've been of some help to you. Tim Quote Tim "That's a fine looking pair of oars you got there, Sir"" 'em aint 'ores --- that's me wife and me daughter! " Current build: Glad Tidings Pinky Schooner Past builds: 1:1 Stick-Up Sharpie Build Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack by Timo4352 - Midwest Products - SMALL - First time builder Gunning Dory sail & oar boat 1:1 Future Build: Scratch built Mower Dory - scale undetermined yet another future build: Martha - Chesapeake draketail
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