robert Lamba

The discussion we've had to now on the now abandoned thread is the deck area in question is above the galley, the round circle could be the galley flue, but there is no flue in the partial parts list that I have. It was suggested what I was seeing was an optical illusion or an obstruction. By clicking on the image I was able to zoom in and the grate(if that's the proper term) appears to have been lowered slightly below the deck level, but why? and why is the lowered grate not shown on the plans? I searched for 1A and found an outline it on parts board, it's just a flat piece of material, no circular flue. Searching some more I found the missing 1A! Already in place inside the hull, it's the lower deck for the galley. It's difficult recalling where you put things 40 years ago 🙄. So the mystery is partially solved, I still don't have any idea what the circle represents, and why the other Derfflinger builder chose to install the grate slightly below deck?

This my 2nd thread on the same topic it was suggested it would be better if I move to the build log so I apologize for the double thread.-R Only my 2nd wooden ship and with no experience at anything this complex and no instructions. I have the scale plans and some of the parts are sorted and identified but many are not. It's a giant 3D puzzle so I've a lot of questions so feel free to offer any advice or options. To solve any puzzle you start with what you know and reduce the size of the puzzle a section at a time. The fewer unidentified pieces that remain the simpler the puzzle. The hull frame is assembled and partially planked, top decks are planked. Today I began assembling the deck grates. There is one I can not identify nor can I find a clear picture on the web just one that's partially obscured. The obscured photo showed a corner of partially lowered grate. The attached photo of the plans show a circle in the middle of a doted line square, what exactly am I looking at here? This is located on the forward deck. Here is a picture of a finished Derfflinger it's also a Dikar like mine . you can see the lowered grate but that doesn't resemble what I see on the plan. My first thought was the galley may be under there and that the circular object is a smoke stack but there is nothing in my box of parts that resembles it, the parts list refers to it as 1A . Should I stick to the plans or modify it as the builder of the ship above?

Thanks but I'm not intimidated by the internet I'm very good at internet searches. I asked for assistance because I've spent hours searching for Dikar specific instructions and come up with nothing. I have the plans but without the instruction book and detailed parts list it's a monumental puzzle for someone who hasn't built something of this scale before.

Thanks, yes I have the 17th century version....those plans will be an enormous help...pdf 4 and 5 are the same? is there one missing or was it a duplication? Going through the the instructions it's good to know deviation is acceptable. Now I need to find cloudy ammonia.

Researching for suppliers of wooden model ships I found one I didn't know about locally, they're very well supplied with spares. So I should be good for wood with maybe only a little staining required to mimic the appropriate specie.

Thanks Mark, Dikar has been gone for a long time. This is not an easy project for my limited experience, without that instruction booklet it's going to a super difficult puzzle as well. It'll be slow going for sure, I'll need the advice of more experienced builders.

I have some advantages on my side. I have a friend who owns a millwork and another who builds high end custom tables so I can source exotic woods with either one. If they can't supply what I require I have a 40+ years with finishing wood so I can make a plain softwood look like other exotic species if need be.

I thought I'd look forward to early retirement, nope it's like being on a waiting list to die. Too fit to not work but not qualified to anything but the work I did before, plentiful number of jobs but I can't do any of them. The little boss is actually pleased I pulled out the Derfflinger, a hobby that'll cost nothing and it won't kill me like my motorcycles.

But wood does dry out over time, most of the build that won't be a problem. I do worry about extreme bending required on the bow and stern. Researching the bending process I've come across a few sites where the builders claim if the planking is to dried out it becomes extremely brittle, that it's no longer viable. I don't have the knowledge to say one way or another but I guess I'll find out.

Many thanks those pictures do indeed help, the ship is not quiet like mine but very, very similar. I did find photos of another completed Derfflinger it looks like the Dikar kit that I have but missing some photo angles that would've been helpful. I think if my build varies slightly in the details I'll be okay no one will know but me. https://elastillerodefelix.blogspot.com/2018/01/mariscal-derfflinger.html?view=classic

As a young kid I built many models mostly plastic, cars ships and planes and some wooden planes , then came girls and motorcycles and I got distracted. In my mid twenties I became interested once again and found wooden ships I had never come across in hobby shops and bought and completed my first a Hoogars, a 19th century fisher the Hendrik by Dikar. A good project for someone new to wooden ships, it didn't take long and it stills lives above my fireplace 40yrs later. After that I thought I'd move move to something more difficult, another Dikar the Derfflinger. Then life got in the way(marriage and kids) and the Derfflinger was retired to a shelf for 35-40yrs? I had a forced medical retirement four yrs ago, after surgical repairs I'm healthy again but I couldn't return to my old career as a renovator. Dying of boredom in the those four years I needed a something to keep me busy so I resurrected and rebuilt three motorcycles! That done I needed something else that was low budget (rebuilding vintage motorcycles is very, very expensive) the little boss wasn't happy. Last week high on a closet shelf I came across the unfinished Derfflinger. I spent an afternoon sorting through the box making note of what was there and what I'd need to scratch build. It's probably 98% complete. What is missing is a parts list to identify all the planking, and more crucially the instruction book, I do have four large build sheets. I'm aware the planking maybe to old and brittle to use but I'll give it a try anyways, I can always buy more planking. Assembling in the incorrect order can be a pain, with a motorcycle I can just take it apart and do it again, not that simple with a ship. So the instruction book would be a time saver. If anyone has built this ship and has pictures or a pdf I can download of the parts list and instructions it would really be helpful. Thanks Robert