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Santisima Trinidad: Occre vs DeAgostini
mangaroca replied to mangaroca's topic in Wood ship model kits
Ouch! Thanks for the word of warning!- 27 replies
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mangaroca replied to mangaroca's topic in Wood ship model kits
Hi, I put the false keel parts together and discovered that the first element (bow) must have been damaged in transit. Nothing is broken but the parcel must have been lying under something heavy and the false keel has been twisted and bent. There is no damage apart from the fact that the keel is not straight anymore and it's back (where it should join with the ship mid-section) is about 1cm to one side when looked from the top. The twisting is particularly visible when looking from the back. Please, see the attached sketch. Now, as far as I know this element is made of plywood. Hopefully, there are ways to make it straight again. Moisturising, bending and drying? Ironing? I've seen a couple of the plank bending methods but I'm sure you have faced similar issues before and could suggest something that you know is working. I guess, I could leave this curve to the decks to straighten but it's a bit risky and I think the tendency to twist would remain nevertheless. :/ Please, help.- 27 replies
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mangaroca replied to mangaroca's topic in Wood ship model kits
Thank you Sir! Will alter my shopping list right away!- 27 replies
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mangaroca replied to mangaroca's topic in Wood ship model kits
I'm sorry to bother you and repeat the question but please tell me if balsa wood is good for making the keel "clamp" such as the one in the attached picture. I need to place my order ASAP and knowing this is vital to me... I'm simply worried that balsa will be too soft :/- 27 replies
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mangaroca replied to mangaroca's topic in Wood ship model kits
Why only those two? Are they considered better quality, easier to work with, last longer? Also, I'll be making my Keel Clamp for the model and I need some timber blocks to glue down onto a board. Is balsa hard enough for that? There are some nice deals here: http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/balsa-block.html but they are a bit short (2 per side?).. Do you need a specific type of wood for that or is that balsa going to be good?- 27 replies
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mangaroca replied to mangaroca's topic in Wood ship model kits
Thank you for that! Yes, the shipping is dear but hopefully the quality will be good. I have two small dilemmas though... 1. Which wood to go for: Maple or Boxwood? Maple comes cheaper and others have been using it in their build logs, Boxwood looks more "professional" with all those fancy measurements (e.g. 2.7mm, 3.4mm etc).. Which brings be to my second concern... 2. If the deck planks were 25ft long (84.6 cm or 3.3 inch in a 1:90 scale) which width is the closest to the original: - 3,4 mm - 3,0 mm - 2,7 mm ?- 27 replies
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Thanks for the tips! I live in Coventry, Warwickshire.- 27 replies
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mangaroca replied to mangaroca's topic in Wood ship model kits
Gentlemen, I am slowly starting to plan things for my ST build and I'm reading many interesting build logs. However, they are all showing OcCre version of the ship and as far as I can see that model uses 3mm deck planking. DeAgostini planks are 5mm wide and I am concerned if this would make the model look out of proportion (the ship is big but the planks are huge...). I was suggested to trim the original planks but they seem to be slightly too thin too. They are roughly 0.65 - 0.72mm thick compared to 1mm in the OcCre Kit... I made a conscious decision about going with the DeAgostini kit instead of OcCre mainly because I am very new to this hobby and their build instructions are much more newbie-friendly. The thing is however that wherever I can change something to my own liking (and probably also historical accuracy) I am willing to take my chances. That's why I'm thinking of buying the 1x3mm planks. Unfortunately, being close to a total noob I cannot decide which timber should be used for this purpose. Could you tell me if I should get: - Lime - Maple - Beech ??? I like the original colour of the DeAgostini strips but I am unable to identify what wood it is... Please, help...- 27 replies
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I have received my first set of parts from DeAgostini today (1st Issue = 5 Stages). All is fine apart from the Stage One parts which are.. well... very low quality. I noticed a few edges to be poorly cut and small bits of the external coat missing here and there on Rib 2. Now, I know probably over 50% of the people that buy issue 1 never get any other issue so the elements are produced with less attention but can anyone confirm this? All the parts from the following issues (2-5) are top quality and good wood..- 27 replies
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mangaroca replied to mangaroca's topic in Wood ship model kits
Thank you all for the tips and information. I am actually studying Donnie's build log now! Oh, and I have subscribed to the DeAgostini's Santisima Trinidad. I chose them because as a beginner I'll definitely need clearer and more basic plans & instructions. Occre set might come in second but for now it's 33 issues from DeAgostini. I will let you know how it goes and definitely ask for help Thanks again for your assistance so far!- 27 replies
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Thank you for a quick response! Hmmm, could anybody confirm that those are the same models?? I was let to believe DeAgostini was double-planked vs. Occre single-planked...- 27 replies
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Hi, Could you please point out the major differences, maybe some pros and cons of the Santisima Trinidad kits from Occre and DeAgostini? I'm particularly interested in quality of parts and cuts, historical accuracy, planking (single or double), difficulty and your overall score. Thank you very much for taking the time to do this!
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