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Hi All,

Soldiering on with my Flying Cloud, 1/96 Mamoli.

I am at a stage now placing Blocks/Eyebolts on the Deck and Hull

 

Unfortunately, supplied plans are not at all clear on where the Eyebolts are located for the Bowsprit/Jibboom lines terminate on the Bow/Hull.

On the plans there are 5 Eyebolts located on the Bow for the various Bowsprit Shrouds/Stays, that's fine, but where exactly are they located on the Hull.

Are they all in a straight line or staggered above or below each other?

How far, what distance are they spaced vertically and horizontally on the Hull?

(At the moment, I am thinking they are located on the Upper Rub Rail just below the Catheads, but again, no real idea.)

 

The only thing that I am sure about are that there are five Eyebolts per side.

 

I have looked at the Lankford instructions for the Flying Fish and Scott Bradner's plans but cannot see anything absolutely definitive.

 

If anyone has some diagrams/approximate positions of these, it would be very much appreciated.

 

Cheers and Regards,

 

Harry.

Completed Builds:

 

A/L Bluenose II

A/L Mare Nostrum

Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark

A/L Pen Duick

A/L Fulgaro

Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck

A/L Sanson

Posted

Well Harry,

 

I know what McKay did on his last clipper, Glory of the Seas.  Not shown in this image, is her jibboom stays...which were all(four per side) inserted along the front of the cathead. You can identify the bullheads.

 

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Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted
19 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Well Harry,

 

I know what McKay did on his last clipper, Glory of the Seas.  Not shown in this image, is her jibboom stays...which were all(four per side) inserted along the front of the cathead. You can identify the bullheads.

 

image.thumb.png.25a32df55013dd36f38475071bba4a5e.png

Hi Chap,

Thanks for that, Great Photo!!

More food for thought....

 

It's looking like the chain Bowsprit Shrouds are well below the lower Rubbing Strake. (Good to see there are two per side, only one on the Kit, same with the Bobstay/s.

 

Yup, happy with the Jibboom Stays, they terminate on the Catheads via Whisker Booms on the Bowsprit cap.

 

Concerned regarding the three (6 total) Foremast Stays, I am wondering if these should pass through holes at Bow Bulwark level and terminate on the Fore Pin rail.

(In your photo, I note the Fore Topmast Stay/s running through the "Bee" but were does it go from there?)

 

Thoughts?

 

Cheers and Regards,

 

Harry.

Completed Builds:

 

A/L Bluenose II

A/L Mare Nostrum

Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark

A/L Pen Duick

A/L Fulgaro

Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck

A/L Sanson

Posted

This painting of Flying Cloud clearly shows the stay arrangement.

 

image.png.5c486a852e8e998d7e2e263af6e09637.png

 

 

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted

In this close-up of Glory of the Seas...you can clearly see the fore topmast stay pass through the Bees....and back toward the root of the bowsprit...where it terminates.

Not sure if McKay used this arrangement on Flying Cloud.  She still sported single topsails.  Near twenty years separates their evolutions.

 

image.png.c1d957acc27d102d4483776c7bf6bc12.png

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted
9 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

In this close-up of Glory of the Seas...you can clearly see the fore topmast stay pass through the Bees....and back toward the root of the bowsprit...where it terminates.

Not sure if McKay used this arrangement on Flying Cloud.  She still sported single topsails.  Near twenty years separates their evolutions.

 

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Hi Chap,

Thank you once again.

Another great photo!!

 

It looks like the Fore Mast Fore Stays all head towards the Fore Pin Rail, or somewhere near there.... Maybe? (It's driving me a bit "Nuts." 🙂)

I need to have a look at Scott Bradner's plans, (Pin map), to ascertain where these Fore Stays terminate.

 

One other method that came to mind this morning would be for me to "Mock-Up" the Bowsprit/Jibboom in situ using "Art Wire" or similar to enable reasonable placement/termination points of all Bowsprit rigging on the hull.

 

Anyway, Still thoughts. 🙂

 

Cheers and Regards,

 

Harry.

 

Completed Builds:

 

A/L Bluenose II

A/L Mare Nostrum

Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark

A/L Pen Duick

A/L Fulgaro

Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck

A/L Sanson

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