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Greetings everyone! I wanted to start a post to discuss certain historical ships where information is sketchy and as far as I can tell no plans or diagrams exist. This is an opportunity to pool together resources if you happen to know of plans or details and resource info for some of the ships mentioned please join in and offer what you've got. Specifically the ships in question I've listed below. Feel free to add more content or correct any inaccuracies to the info as this list is by no means complete just all I could think of off the top of my head. Also not putting down ships which were never completed. -Alliance 1778 35 gun sister to the Confederacy -Warren 1776 32 gun Randolph class -Providence 1776 28 gun -Trumbull 1776 28 gun both were captured by RN so wonder if plans were taken? -Delaware and Boston 24 gun ships taken by RN (there is a plan is Chapelle's book figure 4 dates 1748. I am wondering if this is the correct plan for this Boston) -Lexington 1775 brig (I have seen models and plans of this ship but are they based on actual plans taken by the RN after capture?) -Congress 1799 38 guns while Humphrey's plan for the Constellation/Congress survives and a sail plan from national archives but do plans/details exist for the specific ship as built? -Enterprise 1799 brig this topic has been discussed before -Experiment 1799 brig sister to the Enterprise -John Adams 1799 frigate broken up in 1830 then according to Howard Chapelle rebuilt as a Boston/Vincennes class sloop of war. To my knowledge no plans exist of either incarnation of this ship -Adams 1799 28 gun frigate -General Greene 1799 28 gun frigate -Columbia 1836 Potomac class frigate That's most of them though no doubt there are more, such as shame much of the info of these ships has been lost to history especially since quite a few of them had rather impressive careers like the Alliance or John Adams. I am also noticing that even with ships where plans exist I see no stern or billet details for ships like New York, Boston or Philadelphia in Chapelle's books. I'm wondering if he just didn't include them or are there no records of those details via the official plans in the national archives. Since models have been built of Philadelphia etc. I assume they were. Thanks and happy hunting Charlie- 399 replies
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U.S.S. Alliance by Pyro. Bit of a story about why I am building this kit. Missed two holidays this year due to lockdown. Third holiday lockdown eased one week before. Both my wife and I still not completely comfortable going out so chose a small kit to do whilst away. Holiday was for my 50th Birthday. Wife booked as a surprise 18 months ago and is a small cottage right on the tracks of a heritage railway in Somerset England. Unfortunately no locomotives running and needs £350,000 before can start again. Understandably she is very upset as spoilt her surprise. A long time since I have done a plastic kit, (although have two others up to rigging stage), so this has been a story of disasters so far. No where to get supplies to replace defective items. I manage to pack every thing in the box with the kit that I thought I would need. Or I thought I had. Some photographs of the kit, sorry started before thinking to post on here. I Brought on impulse after seeing on ebay and the kit arrived day before leaving for the holiday. I have done some research but cannot decide what it is i am building. Kit History is below: She is obviously not this vessel. The first Alliance was a frigate and would not have an Engine or prop. Gun arrangement is very strange and i have not been able to find other examples of this. The second Alliance was built in 1875 ( which means I have placed in wrong forum area) but not sure if this is that vessel either. I think you will have to make your own minds up. I must stress, don't expect wonders with this build as only for fun. It may also be abandoned for a while was I am back at home. I have put hull together and installed some deck furniture and started to prime the deck. First issue is that the kit gives part numbers but none on the moulds. My first disasters are that the super glue I brought with me has gone off and the white paint is like treacle. Not going well so far!! Then I noticed that I had forgot my Thinners and mixing pallet for washing the deck. - Not going well so far.
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