thanks for all the suggestions. im still a novice at this so it can be a bit overwhelming. im near the toronto area but because pretty every hobby shop does not carry wooden ship kits i have to order online. the canadian dollar is in the toilet {as usual} and with the exchange rate and shipping its almost double to order anywhere but amazon. i did order the terror direct from ocre but with exchange,shipping and duties it was just too much . sorry, i got off topic. i wonder why in the plans they cant show rigging with sails and rigging without sail . anyway, thanks again for all, the advice and pictures.{ rob, some nice work on the sails on your glory of the seas }.
regards