Bill Jackson
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Question about Apostle San Felipe - OcCre Model 14000
Bill Jackson replied to Bill Jackson's topic in Wood ship model kits
Sadly... I agree with you Jan.(((( -
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Question about Apostle San Felipe - OcCre Model 14000
Bill Jackson replied to Bill Jackson's topic in Wood ship model kits
Thank you for your reply. My research shows that there were 5 different ships named San Felipe from 1570 - 1800. When I emailed OcCre I was very specific to help insure there was no confusion. Anyway, thanks for your comment. Happy building Bill -
I find my self confused again guys and gals. I did my research and purchased the Apostle San Felipe galleon kit . I compared the dimentions, number of cannons etc construction info and found that the kit has the same dimentions and armerment as the research indicated. I also found that there were a number of galleons named San Felipe throughout the 15th, 16th and 17th cneturies. But only one was built as part of the12 Apolstle group back in 1589 and launched in 1590. So the dimentions on the box (1:60), and the name on the box all fit the Apostle San Felipe (1690-1596). I met a person on another site that said I was wrong and that the galleon in the kit was no way the one I thought it was ; that it was built.much later. So I contacted the company OcCre. They said the model kit was built from info taken from a 1700 San Felipe. But during that period all the galleons built named San Felipe were larger and carried many more cannons. WHAT DO YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THIS SITUATION?
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Mast Length Opinion
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I will poke around some. BTW is served on CG-10 (Albany)
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Thanks for your comments Doc. I think I'm going to give it a try; that is cutting the masts to the proper size. From what you guys have said so far, it seems that this incorrect mast size is a norm rather than an exception. Anderson's books are good but I wish he had more info on Spanish galleons. Thanks again Bill
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Greg thank your opinion. I have to agree with you. But correcting their lengths is a major undertaking indeed. I am using RC Anderson's book and a few others. If I keep my nose in the correct time period, I should be ok. My current time period is late 1500's and the galleon is Spanish. Maybe I will take a leap of faith and try it. Baguio in the 70s was great! Now the traffic makes traveling around the city a task! But iys still a beautiful place. Bill
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Hi guy, I am working on the San Felipe galleon and I find I am thinking in circles. The masts length according to the instructions are wrong compaired with the many books I have as reference material. The masts instructions show masts that are 40 to 50 mm too long. Of course you know I try to keep my models true to the time period etc. So just putting the mast up with the wrong lengths kinda make me ill. But if I chqnge the lengths I will also have to change the sail sizes and a number of other things too. YOU OPINIONS PLEASE!! Bill
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Realistic Galleon Painting Question
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I also am in agreement. I have found 2 parts of this galleon already that should not have been on the galleon back in 1590. Each step I take has to be verified by research. Steven and Peter in my opinion, you guys are right on the mark! Bill
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Thanks guys for your response. I agree with everything said. But what about the doors and windows? They are what brought into question the autheticity of the gold color stern brackets. For sure the doors and windows would not have been gilded!??? I am not a fan of photo-eching. I just question their (OcCre) use of gold color. Bill
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Hi All, I am a person who tries to represent the Spanish Galleons models that I build as realistic as possible. Having spent 20 years at sea, I am well aware what salt water does to paint. Therefore, when I do a build, I try to finish my galleons with colors and stains etc. that show wear and the effects of salt water over months of sailing. My current build is the Apostol San Felipe (1559). The instructions show the stern support brackets as being Gold! (See below) This is my problem. While I know galleons of this era did use real gold in some areas it does not seem feasable that support brackets would be real gold, and I dont think at that time they know how to create gold paint. Maybe I am wrong, but from what I have read, the paint in that era was really bad. Meaning it didn't last and the same color varied greatly between ships. QUESTION: Am I wrong in my thinking that stern support brackets would never be gold in color on real Galleons? Your opinions please.. Bill
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Hello All, I am in the process of building the San Felipe (16th century) galleon and the kit comes with Photo-etched doors and windows. I want to replace them with realistic looking wood-type looking doors and windows. Does anyone know of a company that sells them? Modelers Central sells doors, but not windows.
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Guys unfortunately I will have to go with the plywood that came with the kit. I remembered one essential fact during our discussion... I am not a carpenter! Which means I dont have the expertese that you guys have to cut out the pieces for the keel etc. I am 40 years old with 33 years experience, so my time has passed learning how to be a carpenter.) Thanks Bill
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Thank you Jaager. The kit came with plywood that has "simulated" oak wood covering. Your comments indicate that real oak has too large of pores for a ratio of 1: 60. So I am stuck with basswood or plywood.((((
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Thank you Allen. I have also read that oak and pine woods were used in combination for European built Spanish galleons. And later on they were difficult to acquire. Hwre in the Philippines they used the local hardwood Mojave. I guess I have a choice of oak or pine since I am building the San Felipe and it was built in Spain. Thanks again Bill
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Hi All, Does anyone know what wood was used to make keels for Spanish Galleons made in Europe during the 1600's? Bill
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