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Hi Aldo, thanks for the great information you provided - I have a load of options to digest now. I have also ordered Vol 2 of TFFM and when it arrives I will review that too. daveor
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Hi Caroline, Those are some great links thanks. Researching the deck planking is progressing well, thanks to all of the extremely helpful people on this site! I'll continue looking into it and post a new update soon. daveor
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Hi Caroline, That's very kind of you to do! I saw the planking in your build log, which looks great. Were you going for historical accuracy? I would really appreciate it if you could give me the dimensions you used if you don't mind. I'm not sure how to link to a particular image, but in this post: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/710-hms-pegasus-by-vulcanbomber-victory-models/?p=13713 I think I can see the planking well enough to figure out you used a four butt shift? I'm probably going to order the volume 2 of the swan series but it'll be a little while before that gets here. daveor
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Andy, I really do appreciate the input from all of the experienced builders on the site and it's very reassuring to know there's someone there you can ask for advice. daveor
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HI Alistair, I'm based in Ireland - I've updated my signature. Thanks for the input on the books. I'll probably just get one of the volumes for now and see how I go from there. Seems like quite a strong recommendation for volume 2. daveor
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Hi Andy, Thanks for the book reference. I was looking them up and they're fairly pricey, especially when you take into account the shipping. Have you used these books? I was wondering if I could get away with just volume 3 (BUILDING THE SWAN CLASS SLOOP PEGASUS 1777)? I'm interested in going for the greatest degree of historical accuracy that I can. Your comment gave me a chuckle; I was imagining the universe where I end up concluding that it would be just quicker and easier to build a full size replica of the Pegasus :-) daveor
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Does anyone know the scale plank length for the Pegasus and whether the planks are laid using a three butt or a four butt shift? Alternatively, where I could find out? Thanks, daveor
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Hi all, My first question concerning the deck planking - when to do it. I've been looking through a few of the build logs and here's what I've noted: 1) Instructions indicate planking the two deck sections before gluing them onto the bulkheads at this point in the build. 2) Ray's build log seems to show the deck glued into place and then planked in-situ at this point in the build. 3) Spyglass's build log shows the deck planked separately and then put into place but with the gunports put on first so that the tops of the bulkheads can be cut off and the full deck planked in one go. 4) Seasick's build log doesn't seem to go back that far. 5) flyer's build log doesn't seem to go back that far. 6) vulcanbomber's build log doesn't explicitly mention deck planking as far as I can see, but it seems to have been done before the first hull planking and the gunports are in place. 7) realworkingsailor's log shows the deck in place in the first picture in the build log - no gun ports, no hull planking. I'm wondering if, based on all of the above experience, people would have any thoughts on whether there's a best way to proceed? My inclination is to glue the deck in place and plank in there as per Ray's build log.... daveor
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Hi Alistair, Thanks for the input. With the exception of the most aft bulkhead (the thirteenth one), I'm pretty happy with the shaping. A test plank fits well over the bulkheads in about five or six different locations. Regarding that final bulkhead, I found it very hard to know how much needs to be shaved off and I suspect a bit more shaping of that one will need to be done when the planking actually starts. daveor
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Hi all, An update on the balsa retrofit, which I have just completed. Turned out to take a lot longer than I expected - nearly two weeks since my last post. The shaping was performed by using a test plank to check for fit and a knife, file and sandpaper. Anyway; Built up balsa "sandwiches" in front of the first bulkhead, between first and second bulkheads and between second and third bulkheads: Filled the area below the deck with a solid piece of balsa: Finished shaping the balsa at the bow: Filled the area between the twelfth and thirteenth bulkheads using a balsa sandwich and the area below the deck between the eleventh and tweltfh bulkheads with a solid piece of balsa: That was a surprisingly large job, but moving on now to looking at planking the deck. I might have a couple of questions about this for the more experienced builders as I figure out what I'm going to do. All the best for now, daveor
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Andy, Caroline, Thanks for the input. I'm working on a balsa retrofit between the bow and stern bulkheads at the moment so another update to follow.... daveor
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Hi all, two questions for anyone who might know: 1) should the rabbet be able to hold the width of both the first and second plankings or just the first planking? 2) where the keel has been thinned aft of the bearding line, should it be thinned by twice the thickness of the first planking or twice the thickness of the first and second plankings? thanks, daveor
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Hi Caroline and Ray, Thanks for the input regarding the balsa fillers in the bow and stern. I saw the fillers in Ray's Pegasus build log and I had thought that the kit provided plank termination patterns would probably suffice. Since my last post I have fitted the bulkheads to the keel, as well as the plank termination patterns. I'm looking at the model now and I'm sure that I could still fit balsa in over the termination patterns if I decided to. I think I'll get some balsa next week and experiment with fitting it over the termination patterns. daveor
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Andy: Thanks for the picture; your stern shaping seems to be about the same as mine. In fact, I think I may have chamfered mine even a bit more than yours... Aldo: I appreciate the advice, I'll definitely do that when it comes to the planking. Best regards, daveor
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Hi everyone, a brief update on progress over the last while, which has been all about shaping the keel, bulkheads and plank termination patterns. I started by shaping the bulkheads at the bow. I used a planking strip to estimate how much shaping was required and I think the fit is pretty good now. The finished shaping can be seen here: I then shaped the bow plank termination patterns. I shaped them separately and then dry fit them in place and shaped again to make sure the overall shape of termination patterns plus bulkheads is consistent. I shaped the bulkheads and the stern plank termination pattern using the same technique. I also thinned the keel at stern end between the bearding line and the end of the keel. I tapered to a maximum reduction in thickness of approx 2mm off total thickness. I carved a rabbet along the bow and bottom of keel and also into the tongues of the walnut prow (as per the advice above from Ray and by reviewing Spyglass's build log). I still haven't glued anything together because I'm not 100% convinced of the shaping of the bulkeads at the stern. The bend in the planks over the last couple of bulkheads seems to be quite substantial so it's very difficult to assess whether you've shaped them correctly. I'm going to keep trying to test fit planks to the bulkheads until I can convince myself that they're shaped correctly. daveor
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