Cpt_Haddock
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Thanks for the informative input on the ships building battle, does anyone have an idea what to build from the the keel and frames I have from the kit? I will not use them since this build is more like a scratch-type of build as I come along. I have got much info from this build: https://www.alexshipmodels.com/2023/04/18/la-salamandre-gallery/ Adding frames, getting the hang of the process but still not yet halfway. The frames in the middle of the ship is quite uniform.
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Until now I have built the frames in half and put a bit of wood above the keel part of the frame to thickness it. Now on from frame "5" and so I will try build the whole frame in one go. I don have to saw cut the piece in the middle.
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Shelby Cobra Coupe by DocRob - Model Factory Hiro - 1/12 - multi-media - Le Mans
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HMS Fly by ccoyle - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1/64
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I had to fix the beakhead part to force the keel from bending upward. I am not sure how to make the keelson fit on top of the frames. Using linden wood for frames and walnut for other parts.
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Some progress. I have some frames to build. I have now 5 frames and slowly working my way aft.
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Long break but another go on this. Kelson done and trying out my new idea of bending wood.
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WASA 1628 Cannon Port by Cpt_Haddock - 1:15
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Hello, going slow now but keel is done and lodging knee on its way.
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Update: I have found two more replica canons on auction. So now I need some advice what to do. Add more deck or something else?
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Sovereign of the Seas 1637 by md1400cs - Sergal - 1:78 - to be hopefully bashed
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slow progress but some new pictures from work on the keel and deadwood. I have made an rig around the keel for the frames.
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Here is where I found some of the pictures: https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/4187-danish-flagships-form-the-17th-mega-mix/ looks like a scanned book picture
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I have search so many 1700th ship pictures so I have forgotten were that came from, the other is from: https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O1020070/hull-of-a-three-decker-drawing-van-de-velde/ - you can zoom in and see details. Ran in to some problems with the framing. I was planning to use the Sergal kit frame 4-1 as is, but the difference Fincham (I use a Mr Douglas drawing from 1901), McKay and Sergal is to big. The kit is more wedge-shape than the other:
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P.S. I read in some book about the Sovereign of the Seas that they did not use hammocks in 1628, it was used later on.
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Here is a van Velde drawing of the Danish ship, a quick glance and it looks like the SotS. The fore castle is slightly lower and lower gun deck flat as SotS after the rebuild 1659-60.
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Some notes from the Book from James Septhon and Sergals kit: I will try to keep the gun ports as J.S. and compared to Sergal (S) i.e. 9,9mm/10,6mm/11.3mm for 2'-4", 2'-6" and 2'-8" for each deck - S has the same size for all decks. I think it will be worth the extra work for this in the end. The keel was tapered and the rudder the other way around - I do not think I will bother with tapering at all. J.S has ports for all decks and three ports for the beakhead bulkhead (not shown in McKay) - I had some trouble getting the aft but after looking at the Culver model I think I got a solution. the three decks is divided in equal parts (33%). I think I have a solution for the aft but still no design for the galleries. I found the Danish ship Sophia Amalia 1650 that is really a look a like built by a English James Robbins and a drawing from Van Velde show similar decoration along the sides as SotS (not quite as the museum model in the picture).
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I have modified the scale to 1:72 - I think it will be better. Recommend naval ship construction texts via Academia.edu, for example:
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Totally agree - very hard to even come close to that amount of work and artistry. That is a bit why I will try to do a little different approach. When to movie for "the hitchhiker guide to the galaxy" by Douglas Adams come there was many discussions about the "real" story and so on. The real story from the books - but the story in the books came from a mix of radio-episodes that did not add up to that was printed - I feel a bit like that after reading about this ship. Building Wasa was so different - the ship is there to visit. For example - I am thinking of azur blue instead of Stockholm tar black and maybe modify the statues of Neptune/Apollo and the other "god of winds" figure - and make Diana/Nike bigger - I will see. I have decided the angle of the stern post the rake: I am trying to get the shape of the aft, I had to cut of the kit stern post - it was not straight
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