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Greatly appreciate the input. Yes the angle of my rudder made me think of placing tiller up. I have only two more frames left and trying to fit the keelson with floor pieces between each frame. It is a bit tricky to fill the space on the lower part of each frame and a lot of crating templates and jigsawing. Practice pays off. Waiting for two more book of Lavery from the library.
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Hi Trevor, the old model has been in my mind. I have not seen it in Stockholm though, only the Wasa ship. I have curved the top of the rudder now. I have not decided were to place tiller and length. I read about the use of whip-staff or not on big ships and Wasa as not being used for very long as it sank (maybe it is not such a great representative), I read that Lavery in this latest book I read was open for alternative ways (as McKay). I find it somehow crazy to have a single person without watching the sails only depending on shouts from above during a battle or bad weather. In Wasa the helmsman could see out through the upper part of the deck and Lavery writes about companions as can be seen in the animated video link in previous post. I am sort of done with the structure or the stern and finally working my way forward with making new frames. Things I am thinking about: Bonaventure mast or not, elongated quarter deck (main mast not on mid deck), protection over upper deck or not. Tiller length.
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Found the Brian Lavery book (in the library) Arming and fitting of English war ships 1600-1815 and found out my rudder is a bit off for a early 1600 type of rudder. I was planning having the tiller not passing the hull but to be enclosed and have the rudder passing the hull vertically. I have now cut off a bit off the stern post and try making the rudder like the picture in his book. Made the "hinges" for the rudder of copper sheet. Put them in vinegar bath to age them a bit.
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Looking back a year - never thought it would get so slow with this build. But anyhow, the last frame bending is done and I miss the every-day procedure of making frame part. Not every frame is completed with but the process of steam bending is done. I have started with the aft part and it is a bit tricky. I have not glued anything yet and have used a mix of lime and walnut on the transoms. I will fix a block of wood in the lowest part and build upwards to create the stern. Before this I have drawn the ship from the side on a big paper - I realized I needed a clear blueprint with measurements and some thinking forward.
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I have made some of the floor pieces for the space between the frames. Though I have the fixture it is getting lots of frames and a bit wiggle - like a house of cards. I am trying not to fix any frames because of I have to do some about the finish touch frame by frame. I have decided to stop making floors and do the aft frames.
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Thanks for the informative input on the ships building battle, does anyone have an idea what to build from the the keel and frames I have from the kit? I will not use them since this build is more like a scratch-type of build as I come along. I have got much info from this build: https://www.alexshipmodels.com/2023/04/18/la-salamandre-gallery/ Adding frames, getting the hang of the process but still not yet halfway. The frames in the middle of the ship is quite uniform.
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