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I think I am going to call this done! I am just waiting for the case and after that will move it to its final place upstairs. It's been a VERY long road and I learned TONS - thank you everyone for the help and all the advice here!! I already bought Vanguard Adder so clearing up the desk to start on that right away 😀
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finished shrouds and ratlines... took forever! now continuing rigging... it looks like there are few hooks that come with the kit and, using Lennarth Petersson rigging book, it seems few are needed when attaching to the deck - they came in handy!
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Mast is up and rigging is almost ready to be next! btw, i do have to say.. i saw in one of the posts recommendations for black acrylic paint pens.. got them off Amazon - they are really great! Cannot not recommend them enough. I had so much trouble with the finer touch ups with the paintbrush but that paint pen.. so straightforward to use!
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I am thinking of trying getting Vanguard Gun Brig Adder model - what would be the ship's boat type and size that will go with this ship? (launch, yawl, 14 ft/24ft... etc.) Hope anyone knows/ran into the same question... I looked everywhere but for the life of me cannot find this information on what would be historically appropriate.
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Ready for building masts and rigging... (almost). I made the rudder from scratch. I could say that I decided to be historically accurate and did this only because I studied rudders on contemporary models in the great post below and decided to emulate those ... but one could also say that the original rudder has fallen victim to the overzealous sanding - of course i will go with the historical accuracy and the the latter explanation 😀 I now understand why some hate rigging the cannons - not sure if i would go through way more of them... Good thing is I am now not that scared of rigging - I can still screw it up but i won't be scared while doing the screwing up 🙂
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thank you! i am in US. I chickened out to do the brass rings 🙂 I figured at this scale I can close the eyes and pretend they are there. (just will do the eye bolts) So far I had been using the eye bolts from the kit but since i will run out I was thinking to experiment more to see if i can make some. Since the biggest goal is the experience figured i should at least try to learn how to do it from the brass wire... it's been tricky!
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Today it was snowing all day so used the day to work on this... Going VERY slow looks like 🙂 only prepared the riggings for two cannons. I got the loose rope coiled on the masking tape and put diluted wood glue to hold it together, will see tomorrow how it ends up. I was hoping if anyone had any suggestions on the best (and easiest most importantly) way to make small eyebolts (1.5 mm). Since I am rigging the cannons I will end up using 2 extra small eyebolts per gun. I tried using few methods I found online using the copper wire i purchased but failed miserably.
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thank you so much Thukydides and Palmerit!!! i will start on the jig...
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Working on the fittings and deck furniture.. The big question is what to do with the cannon rigging... really want to do it to learn but this is the first time so a bit daunting. I bought some hooks, .6 mm and .3 mm rope, and 2 mm boxwood single sheave blocks from Syren (based on recommendations here). (6 blocks per gun, 6 hooks..) also bought Tiny Photo Etch Eye Pin 1:48 - 24/set to have breeching lines pass through those but now contemplating if I will use them or not.. trying to figure out now what would be the easiest way to rig the cannons doable for a beginner... easiest configuration while still semi-historic.. do i hook the end one to the eye pin on the deck and if not do i leave it out altogether or put to the side... Would anyone have suggestions on the overall approach? would really appreciate if others had any advice...
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chugging along.. added and color few parts.. The transom black borders (not sure what they are called) were a bit out of shape so had to carve and add few extra pieces to make it look even - and added a lot of putty. After it dries will paint it black. One of the things I am thinking of is learning how to rig the guns. I found this helpful article here: also purchased Birchwood Casey Brass black metal finish for PE parts - saw the recommendations on this forum...
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finally got to work more on Sherbourne... at least after few comments from my family that real ship probably took less time to build unfortunately i was not able to (or more properly was really scared to damage more things) to rip out the plank so ended up putting one on top of it. I should have put the one that goes the full length and after sanding it would have been less visible but overall i am ok with how it turned out... Had an accident and broke the stern, had to repair it... Tied too many rubber bands holding the black board while drying the glue.
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Run into a problem looks like... (few but one is more than the other...) was a bit overzealous with sanding and had the first planking layer showing. Attempted to mix together a mixture of dust and yellow glue, masked sides with masking tape, and added created filler - but when sanded looks like it did not go away that much.. Are there any methods to solve this that anyone is aware of is it just better to leave as is and put it as a learning experience?
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I was thinking about the colors of the hull since coming up to that step... White somehow does not sit as good with me... Started doing a bit of digging and from this forum the article below came up: "Pitch, Paint, Varnish and the Changing Colour Schemes of Royal Navy Warships, 1775–1815: A summary of existing knowledge" by Brian Vale. It had a text in there: "In terms of preservation and decoration, the Navy Board divided the sides of a ship into two parts: that from the wales, that is the strengthening timbers which stretched from the stem to the stern, down to the waterline; and the area which extended above this to the rails. The first was ‘payed’ with waterproof applications of pitch and tar, while the second was covered with various types of varnish and/or oil paint." So i take it the color was dark/gray tones of the wood which most directly translates to he unfinished wood look, outside of weathering it. So leaning towards just leaving the hull as is (only varnish with shellac) and just having black wales.
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Second planking is done... Last plank turned out to be very tricky on both sides, spent a lot of time sanding and cutting it to fit the opening... Now need to figure if it is better to paint the hull white or leave be in natural color...
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Slowing getting second planking on using the advice - thank you! It might not apply to this one since it will be painted but will accidental drops of super glue be visible if the model is left unfinished/i.e. is there a specific way to get them off? I wonder if others have run into this problem...
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Found this nice thread! Looks like the best direction for a beginner is to use shellac as base coat/primer and then paint (then varnish again to protect the paint?)... and use the same for the varnish for unpainted areas. I will start out with acrylic colors, not sure yet if airbrush or hand brushing...
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thank you SO much to everyone with your advice! I bought thick and med CA glue in preparation for the second layer of planking as you guys suggested (and from reading other posts on this forum on glue recommendations, Bob Smith Industries one)... Meanwhile sanded the planks and glued some parts. Looks like there is not enough space to slide some planks and too much space at the front but i think extra glue with sawdust should cover it after planking... Trying to prepare/think ahead... what would be recommendations around protecting the painted and unfinished wooden parts? Are there different types of finishes that go on the painted surface as opposed to the unfinished wood one? Something matte I imagine...? Would there be an option to use one type of finish over painted and unpainted surfaces? a bit worried about putting inadvertently a drop in the wrong place and then not being able to get rid of it..
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First planking is done!! Thank you so much for the suggestions! took a bit but the method of bending planks vertically helped - i had to do this in multiple pieces and took a while before i had a hang of it.. I was holding the plank at 2 places on the table with big clamps and then moved the 3rd point of the plank up in the direction of the bend twisting it a bit to not break it - and then went over with the hot planking tool to get it into shape with a little of water. Now need to figure out how to hold the second layer of planks in place while glueing since nails on the finished layer don't appear to be the best choice.. i was thinking to use regular push pins but they seem to be too big/thick to go in.. What would be the best method? I am considering perhaps using the nails on the small pieces of the spare plank but it would take a bit to create them all plus not sure if will hold well...
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Still working on the "vertical bending" process - realized i used too thin of a central "pusher" piece to push the plank vertically while bending and applying heat. Also used the electric bending planking tool on the plans already glued which helped to smooth them better to the frames. (going a bit slow at the moment)
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Thank you!! This is very helpful! i did try to do this but with hands after soaking planks in hot water - and after watching this video i got together a similar thing for the planks to bend them "vertically" and will go for the method for the other plans (i am taking it is fine to leave the other two as is)
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After really long pause with all kinds of life stuff in there back at it... Finally semi-fixed the overzealous sanding issue on the keel from before by inserting a strip of wood; re-attached and glued again the starboard side to be more aligned with the height of the transom... and then did the step I dreaded the most - first two planks, one on each side. One part of the starboard that was holding on with the very thin layer of glue has come off again while pushing the pins through the planks... will need to be glued again. One had to be redone since broke off during bending.. hopefully the first and the last.
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Installed base gun ports, so far so good... next is the decision whether to fix the keel from too much sanding or not (most likely yes) and then do the plan for the first layer of planking. Following the videos and instructions from this forum will be measuring them out, tapering all of them, and then bending them vertically as well as curving them so that they follow the outline better.
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Thank you very much everyone! will definitely do!
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Finally after number of unsuccessful attempts started to build the first model, something that has been planning to do for years but due to circumstances in life never actually made enough progress. Still need to learn how to bend parts but luckily transom when I submerged in the water which turned out to be hotter than was supposed to be took the right shape/curved by itself right away! need to be more careful next time and use different method. This seems such a nice kit! Parts go well so together, I found that what I needed to worry about was not to get overzealous with sanding - took too much of the back part of the ship (one of the last pictures). Contemplating now whether to add some type of filler to it or whether the first planking will make this not-visible and it isn't an issue.. A bit scared of how planking will go but watched some videos on this forum and feel myself prepared - this is fun!
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