Harry12

Hi guys! I want to thank you all for your contributions! this certainly helps me out a lot. However to dissapoint some of you due to the holidays, shipping has slowed down and unfortunately I can start gathering materials like paint, cloth etc in the new year. so you won't hear from me for a while. But when she is finished I will definitely let you guys know! Cheers! harry

Thank you everyone for the many replies. After some consideration I don’t think its necessarily bad if the sails are too thick, As many of you know LEGO is quite a thick building brick in itself. So think the thin model span sails would look a bit out of place on this vessel. A smaller boat may have been more suitable. But this is a huge ship about 90 cm in length and 80 cm in height. Which is to minifigure scale. So I feel like going into the real details like thread count, isn’t the greatest idea as everything will look out of scale on this model anyways. For example, the masts according to my calculations they should be right but they look too big and go to high but it is how it’s supposed to be. It may also help to tell you about my first time making sails. The first sets of sails I made were in fact from pure white linen, a material that was rather translucent. Even after dyeing the fabric. What I did was Firstly I made a sail template digitally in Illustrator (see picture), then I painted a layer of diluted wood glue on top of the fabric making it rather stiff, so that it was easy to cut. I then traced everything from the template onto the fabric using carbon transfer paper and then cut everything out with a fabric scissor and a rotary cutter. I then cut the extra parts that go on top of the sails (which is what the curved and straight strokes are on the template) glued on the extra layers of fabric on the edges of the sails, letting them dry then the next day I dyed them using Dylon dye intense black, well it was anything but Black it became intense grey…. After that I had to put them in the dryer according to the instructions which made the fabric shrink….Oh and all the extra patches of fabric started to get lose after so yeah I learned a lot from this process but I’d like some tips as to not repeat or find any new stupid mistakes I am bound to make. It just drives me nuts that others are able to get some fabric that isn’t translucent or make them so they aren’t translucent like on proper ship models here on the forum as well as Museum pieces. And that whatever I do I just can’t seem to get the same result. Perhaps I’m putting the bar way to high for my first time for ever doing this sort of thing.

Hello everyone, My name is Harry, And I have run aground with my latest project, The black Pearl (scale 1:48). Although she is not from wood, she is actually made of Lego bricks. Nevertheless I intend to fully rig her like a proper model ship. (ropes are already on their way) However after some trial and error I’m a bit stuck when it comes to the sails. You see I am a big fan of accuracy I want them to look how they did in the film. The patched up version from Films 2 and 3 specifically This is the first time I am making sails and I will probably have to make a few more when I get around to work on my other ships. The first time I tried to make sails with Linen as fabric however it shines through too much, even after dying the textile you could basically see the entire masts through the sails itself which isn't something I want. So I am looking for a fabric that is suited for making sails, looks accurate in scale, but is not see through, is easy to stitch and dye. Or if it is see through and you have a way to make it not transparent then I will also be interested in that. I visited a huge fabric store here in the Netherlands a few days ago but none of the fabrics really suited my needs. Because I don’t know which fabrics are suited for this task and how to apply certain techniques to achieve my desired results. I also am looking for clear instruction on how to make sails in general. I have watched some YouTube tutorials particularly from Olha Batchvarov. But she did not do the extra layers of fabric on top of the sails. The curved lines that go over the sails edge (I don’t know the technical terms of this) So if you have anything that can help me than please do not hesitate to reply

Okay so thats how, Also I did manage to find the Blueprint in high quality in one of the bonus features on the Pirates of the caribbean Blu ray behind the scenes documentary, and I can clearly read that the Deadeyes used were 10 and 8 inches in diameter. Can this information be used somehow for the ropes or just stick to the calculations, because these deadeyes dimensions are the only ones I know for certain

Yeah you are probably right, im getting to much into the details which isn't a bad thing by itself but well I have an unhealthy amount of perfectionism, which prevent me from finishing a lot of things due to being unhappy with the accuracy of the result. Oh well, also where did you get this from ''At a scale of 1:48 it is 0.0377" or 0.96mm so 1mm should do well for you if you are building to 1:48 scale'' The numbers 0.0377" or 0.96mm, I can't seem to find it anywhere in the calculations

Thats a beauty! I was torn on this actually while historically accurate yes they would be dark brown as no black rope was made in that time period. But the black pearl uses black Rope as the ship was burnt which gives her that blackened appearence I have some photos courtesy of the Model maker at ILM at the time. THis is the screenused miniature that was used during filming

Damn! allan thank you I did not understand Lee at all, but using such an example helps me a lot. I'm located in the Netherlands. We have almost no retailers when it comes to rope for scale models. There is one closeby in germany, but they don't sell Black rope anymore. Only dark brown and since its made of polyester I can't dye it using fabric dye (which I tried when dyed my sails for the first time, the sails turned out gray instead of black, and the ropes were still dark brown instead of black) I understand most of lee's calculations now thanks to you, however where did you get the 0.0377" or 0.96mm from? is Lees book available somewhere without having to spend 200$? which is what I could find on Amazon (if thats the right book that is) Also its about time I showed you guys some of my pictures of the ship (sails are temporary, it was just to get an idea what route I should go

Yeah I know, most model makers can just see what looks right and what doesn't, but it would save me a lot of money If I could know the exact diameter of rope that I need to get. I have to order a specific black twisted rope from Canada, which isn't close to me at all. And the rope itself is already rather expensive from ''The ropes of scale.com'' So I'd prefer it if I have a concrete list of the sizes so I know which ones to buy immidately instead of trying out multiple sizes (which there are a lot of) I guess there is no easier way to do all of this is there? My current calculations in the spreadsheet comes out to 0.7 for the shroud but thats impsossible as I already have nylon rope which is 0.8 and that was already too thin. I found another photo of the ships rigging up close. I have uploaded an updated plan of the model with its current dimensions.

According to my calculations the length of the lower gund deck should be about 88 decimal feet. And the beam of the ship is 26 decimal feet. in total this should be 114 decimal feet, divided by two = 57 decimal feet. Where in the spreadsheet do I put this Allan? there is only the length of the gundeck and beam as boxes to put in. But not after its divided by two? I did manage to convert my calculations to decimal feet ?

I'm actually working from a plan, There is a refference person on the blueprint, I made him the same height as a lego minifigure in Indesign. which means in LEGO terms this is considered minifigure scale which is 1:48. I then printed the blueprint on huge banner paper it seem im doing it wrong as the shrouds are 0.8 mm, that just isn't right is it? it seem im doing it wrong as the shrouds are 0.8 mm, that just isn't right is it? I have some images from behind the scenes which showcase the full scale of the rope used, so 0.8 mm just doesn't seem right or am I plainly wrong? I will upload the blueprint here, and thank you for being patient with me. Here is what I did; I measured the full blueprint which was about 16,6 cm in width, converted that to inches which is 6.54 multiplied that times 48 = 313 inches. I then converted this to Decimal feet which is 26 the lower gundeck length was 56 cm = 22.05 inches x 48 = 1058 inch to decimal feet = 88

I did find a workaround the blocking of the file, so it is working but i do struggle with the data to input in the boxes. can they be in cm or do they have to be metres? Full size is the full size of the scale model correct?

and when it comes to the data to enter for the beam or the size of the keel are those data refering to the scale model or the actuall ship?

Hi everyone, My name is Harry i'm 21 years old. I'm currently making my first ever modelship of the Fictional Pirate ship The Black Pearl from the Pirates of the caribbean films. However there is a twist, this model is entirely made out of LEGO. Don't think less of her though, she is made according to the official blueprint and I have followed every angle with upmost precision. She is as accurate as she can be. However i have been struggling for a while now when it comes to rigging her. Of course some liberty has to be taken with the rigging given that it is a lego ship after all, but im struggling when it comes to the thickness of the ropes used in the rigging of the ship. I have no idea how to calculate it and get the right size or something that looks quitte right. I don't want to order multiple sizes and see which fits the best you'know. I am aware that there has been some discussion about the calculation of the rope thickness for model ships on this forum, however here is the tricky part. I have autism and that makes it very difficult for me to understand things in general. Without a clear instruction of ''this is how you do it and here is an example'' I won't be able to understand it, not to mention that Math was my absolute worst subject in school. I did read that the circumference of the rope is dependant on the diameter of the mast however is this the real mast of the ship or the model ship mast? Now I hope some of you, can help me with this endeavour because I really want to have this ship look the best she can. But I know after a long while of struggling that I can't do it alone anymore I very much need help when it comes to the details that I have no knowledge about.