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  1. Robska
    @3DShipWright could you explain how you do the texturing of this ship? For example the planking.
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  3. Robska
    Thanks for that first picture, that is actually very helpful. In terms of the tabernacle and even the forward cabin. I think I am going to use this one as inspiration for those parts. For the planking I might go for the suggested planking by Waldemar, de Staten Jacht Utrecht is also useful in this regard.
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  5. Robska
    If I understand the concept of the rabbet line correctly the inner rabbet line is the part of the planking closest to the frames and furthest inside the keel. wouldn't that mean that I should add the one and a half inches on top of the current hull form? I do intend to add the thickness of the planking. English is not my first language and I am also more of a visual learner so please be kind 😀
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  7. Robska
    @WaldemarI am very sorry, I worded that incorrectly. Now it sounds like you gave me a bad 3D model which is certainly not the case. What I meant to say is that due to you using NURBS elements some parts of the model had a weird shading in Blender. I am not knowledgeable enough to figure out what the problem was so I retraced those parts to fix that. I think the main issue here was that those parts were mostly triangles while quads are better in Blender. The main hull is only quads and did not have this issue. Sorry again, I was careless in my wording.
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  10. Robska
    Thanks to @Waldemar who worked out the plan in detail and even provided me with a base hull form in 3D! Due to us using different software I needed some time to clean up the topology. Below is the result of some days of work. First I started with laying out the keel. This is a good base on which the hull rests. After that I traced the main whale using the dimensions provided by Waldemar. I am unsure about the position of the “whale” on the stern. Are those two pieces connected? Do they continue as that same part or is it a different part? The side profile of the plan shows a specific profile of the wood. Let me know if you spot any issues or if you have questions. Next is cleaning up the topology of the hull. Currently the mesh density is a bit too high and there are some smaller errors in the topology.
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    Something like this? Would this be how a tabernacle looked back then? Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. After some research I can confirm that the little hole at the bottom right of the leeboard is indeed for the rope for handling the leeboard at number 2. Still unsure about number 3 though...
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  18. Robska
    Yes, it does! Simple drafting plans of the hull lines including the upperworks which correct for any issue with the original are greatly appreciated. For the side, top and also the bow and stern view. Thank you very much. Will you make a new topic on this?
  19. Robska
    I think I made a mistake when interpreting the explanation on how to use the scale by @amateur. Since Waldemar also pointed out that it is 40 feet. Several people have pointed out that the tiller was fixed to the top of the cabin. I found lots of models that show this. So I will assume that is what that is. Later on, when it comes to modeling the tiller I will look into how exactly this should be modeled. What is a 'luiwagen'? I couldn't find anything other then a mop 🤣 Interesting, makes total sense. So the lower part, on which the 'upper' mast pivots, is fixed to the floor on the inside of the hull? @Waldemar I might be asking too much of you. Please just be frank. But I love your work, I love what you are able to do with those plans. I have already checked out all your topics on this forum on recreating ship plans using this or other similar methods. Would you be able to recreate the plan of the ship so that I can use that for the model? 🙏🙈 @Doreltomin and also Waldemar, thanks for the plan of the "Zeil Plezier Jaght" and also the other plan with the central cabin. That is going to be immensely helpful for recreating a possible central cabin setup and the cockpit. With this setup and the right measurements the cabins are both about 1.7m in height 👌
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  22. Robska
    Thanks all for the lively discussion, I am learning a lot. I made the first preliminary drawings of the decks and measurements. Explanation I agree with @Lieste on the position of the fore-deck. I think this deck continues at this height up to the cockpit well. Though there is still the possibility of a forward cabin in that area just forward of the cockpit. Based on one of the plans provided by @amateur I positioned the bottom of the cockpit well on the drawing. This gives a depth up to the top of the bulwark of 1,80m. That is a fair depth imo. Based on the same plans I positioned the lower deck of the cabin at about the waterline. This gives a height of 3,11m of the cabin. Quite roomy. The depth in hold I measured just aft of the mast, 2,26m. Is that the best position? With a length of 18,22m and a breath of 5,48m this model is maybe bigger then some expected? How did I do on the measurement and terminology? Questions At number 1: is that possibly a windlass? At number 2: I don't know what to call that, but is that something for 'belaying' rigging/lines? At number 3: The top of the whipstaff? At number 4: No clue, what do you think? At number 5: I have no clue about this either, let me know. At number 6: Quite certain these are the hawseholes.
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  26. Robska
    Now that you explained it further I find myself agreeing with you. It may be hard to find the exact dimension, but I do not mind taking some creative liberties. Since this plan already is not 'complete'. Can anyone provide me with images/sources of a cockpit view/situation similar to this? What purpose would the forward cabin have on a ship type like this? I understand the general concept of a cabin, but why have two separated cabins? Ps. Please do keep in mind that I am an amateur compared to most of the forum users when it comes to ships.
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  29. Robska
    Although convincing to some, not to me. I don't see anything on this plan that indicates towards a forward cabin. And about the cockpit, the depth is about 2,8m. That is quite deep, right? I would say, much too deep. I don't think the deck is lower then the main whale, about 1,4m. What do you think?
  30. Robska
    Would you be able to draw this out on the plan? I have a hard time understanding what you mean. The terminology is new for me, especially in English. Very intersting take, I already made a first model shape of the hull. This area was troublesome to model in 3D. But if the transom is basically inset into the stern/cabin then that solves the issue, I think.
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  34. Robska
    @Waldemar Now that is interesting, I would have never placed the upper and lower deck towards the aft of the ship at those positions. But this makes total sense because of the space of the cabin at the back. The main deck feels likes it's placed a bit too high, because the connection point of the leeboard is now nearly at the same height as the deck. Looking at pictures from the 'Utrecht', the connection point seems to be placed at about half the height of the bulwark. Is that a correct assumption on my part, you think?
  35. Robska
    I thought that was the connection point of the leeboard. If it is a scupper then that would indicate the (upper) deck is on that level, right?
  36. Robska
    These first few replies already taught me a lot. @CDR_Ret I have installed DELFTship and read the manual. Still a bit confused about how one adds the shape and validates the hull form. But I will take some more time. @amateur Thanks for the info on the possible rig and the measurement. Can you explain how one would read that 'measuring stick' in the middle of the drawings? Is the length of a duim the distance between two of those diagonal points? And the length of a voet the distance between two horizontal points? If the station lines are drawn on the inside of the planking, how thick would the planking be? What is a normal thickness? Unanswered questions: Where are the deck-levels in the drawings?

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