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    Elmer Cornish reacted to MEDDO in Halifax 1768 by MEDDO - FINISHED - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/4" scale   
    I think may be done with the fairing for now.  Just a bit left (cleaning up the tip of the frames like the pointy one in the second picture).Will be getting on the stern framing tonight.
     

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    Elmer Cornish reacted to MEDDO in Halifax 1768 by MEDDO - FINISHED - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/4" scale   
    Whoa, this fairing thing is taking a while.  At least it's getting there.
     

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    Elmer Cornish reacted to MEDDO in Halifax 1768 by MEDDO - FINISHED - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/4" scale   
    I taped off the keel and it seemed to go pretty well.
     

     
     
    Until...
     

     
     
    I have to be pretty careful going across the frames.  It is very easy to fix.  No wood damaged just a weak glue joint.  A bit of sanding and viola good as new.
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to MEDDO in Halifax 1768 by MEDDO - FINISHED - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/4" scale   
    Ok, first major mistake!  I was looking forward to placing the half frames on the stern area and I kept coming back to the area just posterior to the last full frame.  Something didn't add up.  After going back to the plans and going over some photos in the practicum I finally noticed what I had done.  Apparently when build up the stern post I had switched the 'deadwood' (term used in the practicum) around.  Having switched this "around" I had inadvertently left a gap between the deadwood and the rest of the keel.  You can see this in my previous photos as well as here.
     

     
    So I used some 91% isopropyl alcohol to soak into the glue joints and was able to debond them.
     

     
    Unfortunately I did break a very small piece of the sternpost off.
     

     
    It was then a simple matter of letting them dry, sanding and fitting the pieces back together.  
     

     
    Welp, you live and learn.  I think it looks pretty good for a redo.  It makes more sense as well.
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    Update time at the Aggy but also for the Fonz       
    Second planking and sanding of that on the Aggy is done !
    It only takes me a couple of months to do it .
    Now I need some filler at some places and sanding it again.
    It has to be a smooth surface for the copperplates.
    But...after the filling and sanding it's painting time !
    Then I can start with the coppering.
     

     






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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    The main wale and upper wale at the port side are on.
    I have planked to the top.
    When I was finished with that I wanted to see how it looks when there was paint on it.
    But is is not funny when you are seeing it alone so I post a few pictures....
    Beware....this is only the primer, not the real paint !!!!!!!
    I know there is a lot of touch up but that's for when all of it is gonna get's the real paint.
    Now I can go to the starboard side and do the same thing.......
    But I know for now that it is a lot of planking !!!!!
    And I have to go down to the keel also.
    That takes a few months.....
    It's for me a riddle how Mobbsie can do that so quick !!!!!!
    I know....I have to go for work......
     




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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    The second planking is done.........under the lower wale     
     
     I'm using push pins to hold the planks in the way.
    I have make first the second planking and then right away I place the lower wale.
    Now I can push the pins into the second planking and I don't have to use filler because the holes are covered.
    And to now for sure where the wales are I paint them the first time with a primer.
    I can now go further with the planky the plank and don't have to worry if I damaged the wale and paint it again and again.
     

     
     





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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    After 4 times on and off I think that this it is......
    I don't go for the fifth time any more......
     
    Also put the first ,second plank on.
    This one is in one piece, the others are going in scale.
    Those long lengths is not funny to work with.
    But now I know where the whales are starting.
     





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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    After 2 weeks the quarter gallery on starboard side are on it !!!!!!!!
     
    You see a lot of filler but.....the manual is saying that a gap is normal and will be hide by decorations.
    Before you will see "air" ,I use filler   
    The supports for the gallery's on the port side are on it and now I can place the windows.......
    After that the second planking will be starting.....
     



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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    The support beams on the port side are on it.
    I painted the back wall white and lay planks on the floor.
    Now I can go to the starboard side and then......good question.
    I want to have your opinion on this.
    What do I do first....
    The windows and painting the quarter gallery's first and then the second planking or the other way around ?
    Don't forget that where the quarter gallery's are coming, the surrounded area will be also be painted black.
     

     
     
     


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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    Next problem 
     
    I was trying to dry-fit the transom to see how that goes before I started at the quarter gallery's.
    I know from Mobbsie that he has to raise the transom a bit because it don't fit how it should be.
    I found out that I had the same problem.
    So I contacted Klaas to see what he has.
    In the beginning he had also that problem but he found out why and what to do.
    Because my bulwarks are glued in and  his not, he can change it easier then I do.
    But there is no man over board   
    At the end of this post you will see pictures of that.
    What have I ( and many others ) done.
    The bulwark has to go down and shaped.
    Now you see a gap between the planks and the plate of the bulwark.
    That should be closed !
    So the whole plate will come down a bit just to the right hight.
    What I am gonna do is this.
    I leave the transom as it should be.
    So my top of the bulwark is 2 mm to high.
    When the poop deck is planked , I can make the bulwarks fits nicely.
    The only concern that I have is what about the canons on the lower deck.
    Try that also out and I must say. you don't see 2 mm.....
    When it is more, I can play with the second planking so that's also no problem anymore ( I hope )
    On the pictures the transom slower then it wil come at the end
     
    The pictures are.
     
    1 : dry-fit transom
    2 : dry-fit transom bottom
    3 : red line signed by Hansa to see till where I can take wood away
    4 : Green line signed by Klaas to show how it should be.
     





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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    What have I done the last few days.......
     
    The gun ports and sills on the port side are finished !!!!!!!
    Yippie !!!
     
    I also make the stern Fascia with the windows and paint it.
    Behind the windows there is glazing , even if you not see it.
    Behind the Fascia there is also planking.
    I know that you don't see it ( or someone is coming with a flashlight and will see everything ) I know that it is there.
     

     
     
     




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    Elmer Cornish reacted to Sjors in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64   
    On the starboard side the gun ports are cut out and placed the sills and painted them.
    Now I can go to the port side.......
    The same process is going on then.
    After that I can start the stern and quarter gallery's and second planking....
    The weather is great so I can sit outside and do the drilling ......
     

     
     






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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Arthur - now I realise the source of the confusion....
     
    These.....
     

     
    are the cheeks on my mast.  As you can see they go all the way down the side of the mast and the hoops do go under them ,  and the wooldings over. 
     
    The wooden bands above and below the woolding are (and I've just looked up TFFM IV because I couldn't think of their name) aparently called woolding hoops (logically enough). 
     
    Problem sorted.  Brain no longer confused.
     
    And thanks for the compliment.... I'm enjoying doing the masts more than the hull at the moment. 
     
    C
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Arthur
     
    Just so we are on the same page....  My mast has both hoops and wooldings.  the hoops struturally are underneath the cheeks, and the wooldings wrapped around the whole lot.
     
    for placement and number I'm working off McKays drawings - and he works from Steele.
     

     
    Colin
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Further work!
     
    I got a calm sunny day - so got the chance to take her out and sand the upper hull - that job is 90% complete.  I can still see a couple of places that need smoothing down a little more.
     
    I've been working on the interior (most of this is not glued or varnished - just placed for assessment).
      Shot racks mostly done.  I ran out of 6lb shot, so need to get some more
      Jeer bits are well under way - the decorative bar at the top cost blood to make.
     



     
    after redoing the gunport height it's nice to see the trial gun sitting nicely in the port.
     

     
    Which gives us my latest full hull picture!
     

     
    Colin
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Finally got the main deck planking finished.  Crappy mobile camera shots - sorry.
    Sanding is about half way through - it's mostly smooth, but I can still see and feel a few irregularities in the deck.
     
    Not being able to see into the guts of the ship also gives it a much more finished feel straight away.
     


     
     
    Short term to do list:
    Finish sanding exterior hull.
    finish interior planking. 
    install main deck fittings.  I have a few things built, but just need to get down now and install ringbolts and cleats and work my way down the deck.  I'll probably leave guns until the very last minute before installing upper deck beams.
     
    Colin
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Finally got a chance to get out the camera and get some photos for an update.
     
    I've made a chunk of progress, and after being static for so long it really feels good to be moving forward again.
     
    I work on different aspects of the ship depending on location and how much noise I can make after the kids are asleep.
     
    Hull:
     
    Starboard side finished planking.  I marked out for trenails, but on rereading McKay I've tossed the idea of trenailing the whole hull, since the historical records show she had painted sides.  Since you can't see real trenails under paint, I've decided against that headache (hence the filler on much of the rest of the hull).   There is one plank sitting low, and for the moment it is filled.  If I'm unhappy after sanding I can still replace that one.  I've reworked the gunports and am much happier with the line they take.
     
    Sanding awaits nicer weather.
     
    Gunport lids are shaped and just dry fitted in place at the moment.  Sheaves done, and are temporarily in place until the inboard works are complete.
     


     
    I got out my holly and have gotten on with the job of planking the gundeck.  Looking at top and but planking and a curved layout had put me off doing it for a while, but it's turning out to be an ok job.  Mckay shows straight planking, so I've had to redraw myself.  It's probably wrong in how butts lay in respect to hatches, but my head was hurting even trying to figure this out, so I'm just happy that it's probably a slightly more historically accurate rendition.
     
    Caulking is paper.  I like the effect but may go with a grey for the upper deck.
     



     
    My late night quiet task has been to shape more masts.
     
    Jib - fairly straightforward.

     
    Main topmast - still WIP, awaiting sheaves, ironwork blocks etc, but the basic shape is there.  What was nice was to take the topmast and be able to run it up through the lower trestletrees and mast cap the way it was supposed to work.
     

     
    Colin
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    To finish, I was able to figure a way to light the mast to give some detail.
     
    Pics are large.
     
    Things to note.  
    The heads are stained, but the stain and glue don't fully agree, so they will be painted later.  Prestaining should mean I need only one or two thin coats.
    The bowsprit shot gives a good indication of how nicely lemonwood finishes up (it's still raw wood there)
    The mizzen mast seems to have been occupied by rigging spiders - their work needs to improve.
     


     
    Enjoy.
     
    Current tasks:
    Making sawdust: Portlids and sheaves in the hull.
    Hurting brain: quarter gallery construction.
     
    Colin
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Lower Mast Continued...
     
    Fish
     
    Running down the front of the mast we had the fish.  This again was rectangular stock, but this time I did shape the inner surface, then glued it to the front of the mast, then the external surface sanded round.
     
    Examining Steel - I noted that before the cheeks were added there were iron bands to support the central spindle of a made mast.  These were done in paper, and do not actually go under my cheeks or fish - they are just tiny squares, with matching bands on the rear of the mast.
     

     
    Wolding, Trestletrees and crosstrees.
     
    Once all that was sorted the wolding was added, with paper again serving for the wooden bands above and below.
     
    I don't have any photos of building the trestletrees and crosstrees, so they are presented mostly built.  The foremast not complete since I need an item of served rigging in place before permanantly fixing them.
     


     
    Bowsprit
     
    Shaped in the same manner as the lower masts.  Constructing the bees was an interesting and rewarding task - I was able to actually install sheves here.
     



     
    Test fitting....

     
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    This will mark the end of the historical photos - I've pretty much exhausted the supply of what is sitting around on my computer, and brings us mostly up to date.
     
    First a couple of quick catchup photos:
     
    Trial cannon - allowing me to test fit everything.
     

     
    Current state of the rudder.
     

     
    Lower Masts:
     
    As mentioned before I chose to make the lower masts at this stage - to ensure that they fit and were straight while I could still get into the bowels of the ship if needed.
     
    The construction process is essentially similar to what is outlined in TFFM:IV, with some allowances for building at 2/3 the scale.
     
    Central spindle
     
    Lemonwood Blanks were cut to length (not the full length on the masts, since mine terminate in the middle of the false keel), and maximum diameter of each mast.  On opposing sides, the centreline, cardinal points along the length (deck, quarters, head) and diameters were marked.
     

     
    These references were used to chisel/plane a taper into the mast...
     

     
    Then the process was repeated to taper the other two sides.  Once all four sides were tapered, then the sides were marked out for octagonals and the mast shaped into an octagonal.
     


     
    This was then Clamped in a vice (baswood in the jaws to protect and sanded round.
     

     
    resulting in this....
     

     
    Cheeks
     
    After all that work we then cut a chunk of it away...  In full size practice the mast cheeks were shaped around the mast, Hard to do at scale so we cheat by cutting the mast and attaching the cheek to a flat surface.
     
    Marking out the angles through the head and the end point of the cheeks on the mast spindle...
     

     
    These define the line that we run the mast through the tablesaw (triple check and deep breath time...)
     
    The cheeks themselves are rectangular stock, rounded in the same way as the mast, with trangular notches ready to accept the bibs.
     

     
    Here is a mast, slimmed down with it's cheeks with bibs attached (with their slight outflare)
     

     
    When you glue that all together you get this...  The bands on the head are paper.
     

     
     
     
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Armament:
     
    Unable to find a 6pdr I liked I ended up making my own. 
     
    I took a commercial barrel that was at least the correct length and shape, ripped off the trunnions (because they were much more centre than lower 1/3) and replaced them, carved the design on the top of the barrel, added the flat section around the touch-hole.  With my master done to satisfaction I then cast in whitemetal.
     
    The foundry in full production.

     
    The freshly cast cannon before cleanup...

     
    To start making carriages I shaped a single block of timber that I can then slice off individual carriage sides.  I made sure the grain ends up running along the carriage side.  The shaping was a matter of multiple passess through the tablesaw adjusting the blade height and fence accordingly.
     

     
    I do have one cannon built, but can't find a photo of it, so I'll get a camera out and update this post when I get the chance.
     
    Figurehead:
     
    My first ever attempt at carving in the round.  still very much a WIP.  Boxwood.
     


     
    Rudder:
    Anyone paying attention to earlier full hull shots will be aware that the rudder is fully coppered.  However I have a couple of photos of where I am in the process of doing hardware...

     
     
    Colin
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Interior Fit:
     
    While also working on the exterior some of the main deck components have been assembled.
     
    Capstan Step,
    I think this was Holly - It's been oiled so looks different in the last photos to the deck planking.  It's 3 individual pieces slotted together.

     
    Gratings and Coamings:
     
    Gratings were manufactured from Boxwood, one side notched, with straight pieces glued across the notches.  I made larger then cut them down to size.  The coamings are of jarrah, beveled, rounded off, cambered, and I used a camber on the inner face to force the gratings to bend a little to reduce the sanding involved in shaping them.
     


     
    Ladders:
    jarrah and holly, coamings made the same way.
     

     
    Mainmast partners:
    Made from Holly.  This was one of the interesting components to build, as the plans disagree on different views.  Some views they are notched to allow for the outboard leg of the chainpump to pass by, in other views it clears the partners and no notch is needed.  Building the chainpumps showed the latter was correct.

     
    When you put them all together...



     
    You can see also in this the riding bitts have been completed and are in place as well.  Deck planking between the structures has started there as well.
     
    Colin
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    Continuing on.
     
    Getting there.
     
    I can't find any pics of the lower hull planking in progress apart from this .

     
    Coppering:
    Coppering is done with individual plates, prestamped with a nail pattern.  I bought 7/16" (I think) adhesive copper, and cut into 3/4" lengths.  I was really pleased to find a width of copper that was exactly right at my scale.  For the whole hull I used an entire 32yd roll with about 100 to spare.
     

     
    I tried an experiment to get the nail pattern right.  I took a 2mm thick peice of strip, glued a nail pattern on and drilled holes in the appropriate place.  Then I used acupuncture needles through the holes and on 2 edges.  The AP needles are 0.25mm diameter, so are actually pretty close in scale to the nails.  The nail pattern I produced was like this...
     


     
    Pros: good pattern that burnishes down beautifully.
    Cons: Fiddly.  There are 40 odd needles that need to be in place, even depth, glued down.  They are smaller than the smallest holes you can easily drill.  They are designed to pierce skin easily. They do blunt, and bend.   To make the press easier to hold, I created a handle out of scuply around the rear side of the needles.  
     
    I got delayed in coppering so the first few plates went on about 6mo before the rest.  I decided to take a pic to show people what you can expect from copper that has been handled, and exposed to air.
     

     
    Progress....





     
    Just visible in the last pic is the batten along the top edge of the copper.
     
    Colin
     
     
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    Elmer Cornish reacted to clloyd in HMS Pandora 1779 by clloyd - Scale 1/64 - POB - 1790 configuration   
    In the above you can see the planning for the diminishing strakes.  They were top and butt, and decreasing thickness from nearly wale thickness to the thickness of the bottom planking.
     
    The rest of the planking was planned out with thread.  (pics are brutal but.....)
     

     

     
     
    Here's a side profile about halfway through planking.  I've planked up the side of the hull as well as down.  Planks vary in thickness according to which planks they are and where on the hull they fall.
     
    Masts are there to make sure (while I can still get inside that the chocks and partners are in line and straight.  there will be a separate post for making these later)
     


     
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