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Thanks again to everyone for all the help.  I've learned a few things, as the photo below illustrates.

• Get the thread a little wet before using it.  That'll get the kinks out of it and make it a lot easier to work with.
• Use a template to get the vertical spacing right.
• Use a template to ensure the shrouds aren't being pulled together.
• Do every fourth ratline and then go back and do the rest.
• Things tend to go a little faster with a little experience.

Although it probably won't make much difference to people looking at the model, I really do like the idea of not having loose ends hanging off the sides of the ratlines.  I was determined to get the cow hitch - clove hitch - clove hitch - cow hitch series right.  I've found that it's not that tough once you get the hang of it.

• Box 1 shows my first attempts:  loose knots and ... what's that?  A string ball?
• Box 2 shows subsequent attempts:  properly tied and tighter.  (These were done after I learned I should get the thread a little damp to take the kinks out of it and make it easier to work with.
• Box 3 shows what I consider to be properly done ratlines.  The knots are tight, the they're not pulling the shrouds together and the knots are properly tied.

If I can just replicate Box 3 about a thousand times, I'll be good to go!  Honestly, this is about the most mindless part of my entire building experience.  It's pretty relaxing.  Once you get the hang of the two knots, it goes pretty quickly.

I'm a little anxious about rigging the foremast ratlines.  Scottish Maid is a clipper schooner, so I have the foremast yards right in the way, along with all the other rigging.  I'm hoping my experience with the main mast will serve me well on the trickier foremast.

Next time, I'm going to do all the ratlines when I step the mast and rig the shrouds...

Dan

I'm doing my ratlines now and it'sthe last bit of rigging to be done.  I'm not having any trouble maneuvering around the other rigging.

Dan

Thanks for the tip on wetting the ratline thread.  I think I'm going to have to do that, based on my work last night...

First, I learned how to tie the two knots invoved in rigging the ratlines:  the cow hitch and the clove hitch.  I found a good video explanation of the clove hitch and as you can see in the photo below, those knots look pretty good.  (Here's a link:  http://www.ehow.com/video_2355229_tie-clove-hitch-knot.html)

As for the cow hitch, that one was pretty easy to figure out, but hard to get to lie correctly.  You can see that in the photo too.  Maybe wetting the line will help that out.  I'll try that tonight if I can fit it in.

I tied four knots last night.  Took me about 30 minutes.  I'm going to have to get faster at that if I'm ever going to finish this job.  That said, most of my time was spent figuring out how to do it.  Repetition is going to speed this up a lot.  I'm also going to take the suggestion of putting the vertical lines on my template.  I can see how it would be easy to pull the ratlines together and distort the shrouds without some kind of guide.

Dan

Last night, I started tying knots.  I found this picture somewhere on Model Ship World.  (I'm sorry, but I forget where...)  And I liked the looks of these knots.

Two things became clear pretty fast.  First, it was hard to tighten the cow hitch.  I'd put some tension on it and it'd look good, but as soon as I let go, it loosened up.  Second, I'm not sure how to tie those clove hitches.  Mastini recommends simple overhand knots in his Ship Modeling Simplified book.  Those are certainly simple, but they don't look as good as those clove hitches.  Not sure which way to go on those two issues.

Also, Mastini recommends using tan thread for the ratlines and that's what's shown in this picture, but most of the models I've seen use the same color for the ratlines as for the shrouds.  I think I'm going to go with the darker color, but I'd be interested in the opinions of others.

Finally, getting the right tension on the ratlines between the shrouds seems to be a challenge.  Anyone got a good method for that?  Or is this just a task that requires a lot of fiddling to get right?

Dan

Based on the recommendations from you gentlemen, I started on the ratlines.  Scottish Maid is in 1:50 scale, so the spacing between the ratlines should be 0.32 inches.  Luckily, I have a ruler graduated in 10ths and 100ths of inches, so ruling those lines on a piece of cardstock was simple.

Then I cut templates about 1.5 inches wide, whcih will fit nicely behind the shrouds.

You can see the final result.

Thanks, Grant.  I'll try that.

Dan

I did a presentation on masts and spars for the club I belong to.  (Shameless plug for the The Nautical Research and Model Ship Society of Chicago.)  I've attached the presentation.  I use a small lathe made by Harbor Freight Tools, a digital caliper and a file.

Hope this helps!

Dan

Masts and Spars.pdf

Thanks, gentlemen.

Grant, I continue to be amazed at your HMS Victory.  It's truly inspiring.  That's exactly the template I was looking for.  I'll make one up and get started.

Dan

I've reached the point on my Scottish Maid that I need to rig the ratlines.  I remember reading a method here on Model Ship World that involved using graph paper to make a template to keep them properly spaced.  Before posing, I searched for those posts and couldn't find them.

Anyone recall that method?  It made all kinds of sense when I read it, but I need a refresher to actually do it.

Thanks!

Dan

Now that's something I could really use.  I've struggled with that kind fo fine detail work.  I think your rigging bench is exactly what I've been looking for.

Dan