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Ahoy @Roger Pellett... THANK YOU for the reference - I will add that to my collection. I had a terrific book that I found at an awesome used bookstore hidden away down a side street in Boston that specifically focused on the engineering of the Olympic class ships... Alas, I can't find it. Ugh. This looks like a valuable substitute. Cheers Evan

Ahoy all... I should mention some key resources that I will be utilizing going forward... Firstly, Robert Read has generously opened up all of his Titanic plans for everyone to access and download free of charge. 1. Titanic Plan Page 1 This plan page is a starboard profile of the ship. Updated 6/23/23 2. Titanic Plan Page 2 This plan page is a port profile of the ship. Updated 6/23/23 3. Titanic Plan Page 3 This plan page has plan views of the upper decks, underbody, and forward and aft elevations. Updated 6/23/23 4. Titanic Plan Page 4 This plan page has drawings of visible ventilators and a location map. Updated 6/17/23 5. Titanic Plan Page 5 This page has individual drawings of deck equipment and a location map. Updated 6/23/23 6. Titanic Plan Page 6 This page has plan and elevation drawings of “Boat deck” and “A deck” deckhouses.Updated 6/17/23 7. Titanic Plan Page 7 This page has plan and elevation drawings of “B deck” deckhouses, forward and aft well decks, and docking bridge. Updated 6/17/23 8. Titanic Plan Page 8 This page has Hull Lines drawings with sheer plan, body plan, and half-breadth plan. Updated 6/17/23 9. Titanic Plan Page 9 This page has a shell plating expansion drawing. Updated 6/17/23 These are available with certain conditions regarding attribution and non-commercial use, etc. Of particular interest to me is the Shell Plating Expansion plan... I'm in the midst of the bottom hull plating and this is a critical guide. Also very useful are the internal deck layouts available from the folks at Titanic Honor & Glory. They charge a reasonable fee to get a single download file with all of the decks included. You can zoom in and out and grab snippets to print as needed. A wider set with individual files for each deck is also available, but not necessary for my purposes. Here is the deck plans link: TitanicDeckPlan.com. (Note: I'm not affiliated in any way and don't get $$$ for the shout out) Cheers, Evan

Ahoy @Kelp! I appreciate your continued interest and look forward to seeing your efforts down the line... Happy to assist in any way I can. Here are some quick looks at fiber optic filament inserted in a port: You see the filament intentionally poking out to get a sense of the fit. Here it is pushed flush to the exterior. I haven't treated the end at all... I'll likely need to buff the ends before final fit to get the best look. I agree with your concern that acetate set behind the drilled out ports will not have the right effect given the thickness of the hull. You could come back and fill in the space with clear canopy glue or some clear resin (hardened with UV flashlight) but that would seem to be many more units of effort than using filament. Probably more expensive too. I'd have to recommend the filament route... Just be careful to size the drilled out ports in relation to the filament and not in relation to the historically accurate scale diameter. I purchased my filament online at a very reasonable overall cost. I have 10 foot lengths each of 1.0mm, 1.5mm, 2.0mm. 2.5mm and 3.0mm with a total cost (incl. shipping) of around $20 US. Filling the ports is a long ways away for me... Many steps remaining before I even smear any paint on the hull. Cheers Evan

U-505 A slight diversion… I’ve been very interested in a future project to build a submarine kit – specifically WWII era Gato or UBoat of some sort… I recently visited Chicago to attend a nephew’s graduation and was able to check off another bucket list item – visiting U-505 in the Science Museum. It did not disappoint. For those not familiar with U 505, she was captured late in the war by a US Navy task force that was specially trained to board a U-boat after forcing it to the surface. Dan Gallery was in command, and he wrote a very entertaining book about the effort that I read way back in middle school. The museum does a terrific job of presenting the story of her capture and highlighting the many contributions made by the combined team to pull it off. However, they do leave out much that is interesting about U-505 and the overall operation that you can dig up with online searches. A previous commander, for example, cracked under the tension of an extended depth charge barrage and pulled out a pistol and killed himself in front of the crew. U-505 survived a low-level bombing and sailed across the Atlantic entirely on the surface and was probably the most damaged German submarine ever to return to port. Most of the internal spaces had been gutted before the boat reached Chicago. German companies donated most of the gauges, harnesses, etc., needed to restore the interior. Dan Gallery himself was nearly court-martialed by Fleet Admiral Ernest King for his efforts. King was angry that the sub was not scuttled after removing everything valuable. The key goal of the project was to capture the critical naval codes and Enigma equipment (along with useful manuals about torpedo technology, etc.) before the boat could sink. An enterprising sailor managed to put the lid back on the main scuttle to prevent further flooding and the German crew otherwise neglected to arm explosive charges when they abandoned ship. The captured submarine was a dangerous liability… If another U-Boat spotted her being towed to a friendly port the jig would be up and the German navy may well have revamped all their codes and reconfigured the Enigmas – ruining a key advantage that the allies already had in place at that period of the war. Gallery managed to calm Admiral King down and issued a proclamation to his task force reminding them all to keep quiet or suffer severe consequences. The captured U-Boat crew was sequestered and denied communication back to their homeland in violation of the Geneva convention. Be sure to plan to visit this incredible artifact if you’re ever near Chicago. Cheers, Evan

Thanks for all of the Likes! @yvesvidal I appreciate your note and agree that I managed to improve my Titanic. This could have gone badly... Whew! Evan

The Bow Hawse Pipe The bow of the Olympic class liners had a distinctive opening for the bow hawse pipe: This opening was used for the infrequent deployment of the bow center anchor that was stowed in a well on the foredeck. Probably also handy in certain mooring and towing situations. The Trumpeter kit includes a very generic roundish appendage to represent this feature. A big miss in accuracy that is hard to reconcile. I was a bit worried about correcting this since screwing it up would be very noticeable on the model - but leaving the inaccurate kit version in place seemed to be a worse option. Something needed to be done. There is a very attractive 3D print that Arturo Anzures has available on the Shapeways site that could be a nice solution. Unfortunately, this option requires some serious surgery on the kit that will involve quite a bit of finesse and epoxy putty to properly incorporate. I’m a bit squeamish about going down that path. If I’m willing to work with the general dimensions of the kit version (slightly wider than historical scale) I think I can fashion a simpler solution that will get me a decent result. Here I go… First, I notched out a section in front of the kit version using a hobby knife, micro-chisel, and a flat file. This creates a space to insert a small bit of styrene shaped appropriately to resemble the historic contours of the hawse pipe. The piece was sized to the same width as the kit version to minimize the need to carve up the plastic and to maximize the surface area for the solvent. After getting it affixed, I went ahead and drilled out the hawse pipe opening. I first drilled a small pilot hole, then went back again with a larger bit for the final version. At this point I had the framework of the new hawse pipe in place and just needed to fill behind the new styrene with epoxy putty to establish the final contours. I’m not a frequent user of Milliput, but I do appreciate having some on hand for the right moments. The White Superfine version works best for me. I wear disposable gloves to mix the two components together between my fingers and then roll it back and forth on some tin foil (to protect my work surface from the residue). I used some scrap styrene to fashion a few simple shaping tools to help mold the epoxy into the final form. The styrene hawse piece defines the overall shape as I add putty to back fill behind. Having a small cup of water nearby is critical… Milliput is easily smoothed and manipulated if I dip my shaping tools in water as I go along. The first pass does not need perfection – it just needs to represent the rough outline. I’ll come back with progressively finer sanding paper to smooth everything out. Round sanding sticks are useful for the next step: The internal hawse pipe opening is widened and smoothed out to better match against the historic references. I’ll stand pat with this result until I get to the primer stage. Like some other areas on the hull, I’ll make refinements and finalize everything once the primer helps fill and smooth out some of the rough surfaces and otherwise reveals the imperfections. This turned out to be less painful than I thought it would be…! Cheers, Evan

Thanks all for the kind remarks and continued encouragement! I've been traveling the past few weeks and neglecting my build log... Let me start catching everyone up. Cheers Evan

Thank you Don! I really appreciate your continued interest in my build. Cheers! Evan

The Rudder Continued… Let’s make a scratch-built rudder for the Trumpeter 1/200 Titanic. I started with a sheet of .030 thick styrene. This is not so thin that it’ll warp, and not too far off from scale. It is also easily cut with common paper scissors. Step 1 I traced the general outline on the sheet using my previously modified Trumpeter rudder as a template. This provides a good shape while allowing exact alignment of the pintles to fit the kit. Step 2 I cut out the gaps between the pintle positions and did some initial test fitting: Step 3 The rudder outline was snipped using scissors to get a rough outline that was refined with a hobby knife and smoothed using a coarse flex file. Step 4 Before adding the bolt flanges, I cemented some half round strip to the pintles to give them a cylindrical shape… I used .080 No. 242 half round Evergreen that was filed a bit thinner to better match the scale before cementing. I affixed a single length and used a chunk of styrene to press against the rudder edge for tight alignment of the half round strip. After a few minutes I came back and snipped between the pintles to remove the excess. Worked one side at a time. These will later get filed flush on the ends as I fitted them to the kit. Step 5 Now to attend to the bolt flanges. I needed to find a method that would produce consistent wedge shapes for all the needed elements. I determined that strips of .020 x.060 could be stacked in the approximate shape and glued side by side to some scrap sheet (only glued down at the ends) to allow me to file them all at the same angle to shape the flanges. I needed ten for the job, but I made them in two batches of 7 each to get some extras just in case. The thick chunk of styrene in the picture was used to press against each stack during gluing to make sure everything stayed aligned. Step 6 Once dry, I came back and filed the wedges at a consistent angle and then cut them free from the sheet. They didn’t need to have a perfectly smooth slope – just enough to represent the wedges. I carefully separated them with the hobby knife blade: Step 7 Next, I flipped over each of the newly made wedges so that the factory smooth side was on top and cemented them to the rudder with plenty of overhang: These were carefully positioned in relation to the pintles according to the historic photo references. Note that the last flange is set slightly BELOW the last pintle. The overhangs were trimmed to fit and the whole process repeated for the other side. Additionally, small styrene rod was used for the bolt heads on the pintles. Step 8 I added the zinc anodes based on what appears in most of the historic photos. These were .010 x.030 strips that were pricked with a push pin to represent the small bolts and flipped over and cemented in place. As @Tsm209 noted in an earlier post, there are discrepancies in how some folks think the rudder anodes should be represented. Robert Read shows a “double-wide” version rather than what is seen in most historic Titanic photos. It may be that Mr. Read has access to other photos and/or documentation that he used to source his drawings. The talented digital artist Vasilije Ristovic’ also shows this type of rudder anode in his stunning 3D illustration: (Image from Mr. Ristovic’s terrific Facebook page ) I chose to stick with what I could see on the historic Titanic rudder photos that are most referenced in online searches. Step 9 I added the rudder stock to the top of the rudder using Evergreen .080 rod (No. 212). The stock was made long enough to easily extend into the hull. Step 10 Adding the details The Titanic had stops mounted on two of the pintles to limit the maximum rudder angle to 40 degrees on hard turns. Small snips of .020 x .040 styrene were added for these. There is also a small piece of .010 x.020 strip on the outer edge for a future hasp (?) ring that mounts here. I’ll add that just before priming/painting since it’ll be fragile. Also included are the small stops mounted on the kit where the rudder pintles would meet the hull. I should also note that the small hole under the counter was drilled wider to accommodate the new rudder stock diameter. Some sample views from aft to show the overall effect: Not quite up to the level of a 3D printed version, but it was fun to build and likely cost me less than $5 US in materials that I already (mostly) had on hand. (I did need to purchase the half round and smaller rod for the pintle detail.) Thanks again to those who’ve been following along. Bow Hawse up next. Cheers, Evan

The Rudder The Olympic class liners had serious chunks of metal for rudders… The Titanic's rudder was nearly 79 feet tall, more than 15 feet at the widest point and weighed in at around 100 tons. It was controlled using two steering engines (one backup) connected via tillers to the rudder quadrant. Some have argued that Titanic’s rudder was far too small for the job and contributed to her inability to avoid disaster. Others claim otherwise... They say that the math works out well and the rudder surface area was only slightly undersized in relation to the waterline length and other factors that naval architects consider these days when sizing a rudder. They point out that Titanic likely turned at least two compass points in the very brief interval between "Hard a Starboard!!!!" and contact. Pretty good considering her overall length and Titanic’s relative speed at the time of sighting the berg. It is also relevant that the Olympic had a long career and was thought to be very maneuverable by her multiple captains. The rudder was probably very serviceable and not a significant factor in the collision. Here is a historic photo of the rudder showing human scale. Note the large bolts on the flanges that hold the five large panels together. In this view by photographer Robert John Welch, we see that the bolts are now encased in cement (note the lighter color on the outer edges) to streamline the water flow over the rudder surface. So how does the Trumpeter version hold up to the historic record? Not great. The shape is too wide across the entire form, the bolt flanges are much too thin, and the rudder stops and other details are missing. Not to mention the out of scale thickness of the entire piece and the lack of any dimension on the rudder pintles. I first considered modifying the kit rudder to improve the shape and add the missing details. I assembled the necessary tools and marked a pencil line to refine the shape and went to work. The shape was easily improved, but at this point I thought it didn’t make sense to proceed since the piece was just too thick for the scale. Why bother? So on to the KA resin version. This rudder was much improved in terms of shape and detail, but mine was a bit warped and needed a bath in warm water to get it (mostly) straightened. But alas… Inexplicably the KA rudder pintles don’t align with the gudgeons on the kit and the rudder stock at the top doesn’t extend far enough to reach into the hull. Ugh. I’d need to extend the KA rudder stock and relocate the gudgeons on the kit. And I'm a bit worried about future warping since the piece is so thin (but likely accurate to scale). Hmmm… I have a varied collection of styrene strips and sheets built up over years of plastic modeling. How about I try my hand at a scratch-built rudder? I can control all the details, make sure it fits cleanly to the kit, and make it a bit thicker than the KA version, but not as thick as the Trumpeter one. And it’ll be fun. Onward. Cheers, Evan

Under Counter Plating As mentioned before… The Trumpeter Titanic does not have the plating under the stern counter. There is a terrific PE brass solution provided by Mini-Brass that will produce an excellent result (as evidenced by many build logs out in the ether), but I didn’t go that route. It seemed to me that using PE would make those plates stand out as elements not belonging to the rest of the hull. Essentially, I worried that the brass plating with the overlapping seams might be TOO accurate. I chose instead to scratch build the plating using styrene strips and sheets so that I could blend everything with the existing kit. This scratch building was actually the very first thing I did on the kit after I first bought it a few years ago… I wanted to see what I could make of this area before I invested any time elsewhere. There are plenty of online resources and photos to help guide my efforts. This view of the Olympic prior to launch gives a good sense of what is needed. As Roger pointed out earlier – The kit is very far from reality. The Olympic class ships do, however, look very different in their under-counter plating than what Roger showed on his model. Specifically, these ships have “centerline plates” (Robert Read’s term) that provide strength across the theoretical midline and anchor the additional outboard strakes. These are solid plates with no midline seams. Centerline Plates I marked off the innermost plate with tape and transferred the pattern to a strip of styrene. This was cut and glued into position. The same piece was replicated for both port and starboard. I then filled the midline seam with Tamiya putty so that it will disappear when primed. Similar procedure as I worked outward for the next plates. I would slightly overlap the styrene and cut them square. I was careful to use the existing kit molded plates to blend into the new styrene pieces as I expanded the plating. After crafting on one side, I’d trace the plate using Tamiya tape to replicate the same piece on the other side. Spaces to fill were also traced with tape and transferred to styrene strips to form the next plates. Joints were sanded even to blend with the kit… Finally, I added .010 x .030 strips to represent the butt laps between strakes. I thought this would match closer to the kit versions. Overlapping the styrene strakes (as in actual practice) seemed to me to be out of scale no matter how hard I tried to make them look like the Trumpeter versions. You’ll notice two things: 1. The depth of the plates/strakes varies to reflect what is shown in the historic photo. 2. I screwed up. Yup. I got so caught up in the flow of building out the strakes and balancing them against each other and blending in with the kit plating that I neglected to include one of the strakes! To make the correct plating pattern, I’ll likely need to undo everything I’ve done. The spacing would need to be reset starting with the critical first centerline plate near the hole for the stern post. (Note that I’ve also added the .010x.030 strips to the upper counter to represent that plating.) At this point I’m in a holding pattern… The result isn’t terrible, and the error won’t be apparent to any but the most ardent Titanic fans. I may try to get away with it unless it gnaws at me enough to eventually force my hand. Cheers, Evan

Hello @Rob-Squid Thank you for the kind note... I appreciate the Titanic resources. I did not know that the old Titanic Research &Modeling Association site had been archived. That is a terrific repository. I did view the Rivet Counter site a few times in the past and found plenty of treasure to mine there... Thanks also for your callout of this build log for inspiring you to deepen your engagement with this site along with the NRG. I'm thrilled to know that folks have found value in my efforts and have kept an eye out for new updates. I do have this new distraction, but I may try a few things on this project while I'm also working on the Titanic... We'll see. Cheers Evan

Hello @DavidG... I agree with your view on build log formatting... I don't think Facebook and other similar forums lend themselves to laying out a log. The MSW type of environment is best since everything is laid out in one place and others can easily follow the progression and improve on my approach (and mistakes). It allows everyone to see a cohesive narrative and get context on the WHAT, WHY, HOW questions that inform my build. I also agree with your comment about the propeller shaft near the stern frame. It is much too stubby compared to the actual ship version... However this is one of those areas where I think I'll shy away from trying to make any improvement... It seems to me that the core problem is that the hull is too thick in this area. Rather than widen the shaft so that it can extend more into the hull, I'd need to first thin out the edge of the hull. That is too big of a job for me to take on - with a big risk of damaging the model in an unrecoverable manner. I'll be interested to see your result if you do make an attempt to improve the shaft... Folks will notice as I go along that most of the "improvements" that I attempt will have a reasonable fall back in case I screw up. The carving of the curved plating at the stern, for example, was minimal risk. If I had screwed that up, I'd have come back and shaped a thin sheet of styrene to glue over the top so that I could move on. I'm still pondering the risk/reward for reshaping the bow hawse hole as another example. It might not be worth it if I have a misshaped blob on the bow if I mess it up. And I'm not sure it is worth the effort to cut everything away and insert a 3D print replacement with all the shaping and putty that would still be needed. All decisions that make ship modeling so much fun. Thanks for popping in to follow along. Cheers Evan

The Stern Post The Trumpeter kit is lacking some detail around the stern post. There are plenty of historic photos to guide my modifications… Adding the curved plating detail requires gathering a few key tools: Step 1 The curves were plotted with pencil outlines and etched with a standard hobby knife blade. Step 2 The hobby knife was also used to notch an edge into the curve to guide the next steps. Most of the shaping was done with a detail chisel (I have a set from Micro-Mark that comes in handy). I would peel away small layers of the plastic up to the notched edge of the curve. Step 3 Once the initial shape was roughed out, a small file was used to set the final edge and level the surface. Medium grit flexible files were used to smooth the surface as I went along. Step 4 Now I needed to reflect the same curves on the Starboard side. I laid down some tape and traced the edge. The tape was then transferred to a piece of card paper and cut out. Step 5 This was then positioned on the starboard side and traced with a pencil line to guide the same procedure as before… I would occasionally refresh my carved edge with a pencil line to help track my progress: Step 6 Finally, I came back with progressively finer flex files to smooth everything down and eliminate any remaining rough surfaces. Step 7 I used thin Evergreen Styrene strips (.010) from my stash and added the rivets by pricking one side with the tip of a pushpin and flipping it over before gluing. The rivets are laid out in a diagonal pattern using some pencil lines as a guide. I fashioned some strips a bit longer than needed and cut to size before transferring them to the hull. The rivet reinforcement and the zinc strips were all done using this method. After the first round of primer, I’ll come back and fill/smooth to finalize the surface before painting. That’ll be a bit further along in my build. Cheers, Evan

Hello Hubac... Thanks for looking in on my effort here with the Titanic... Aye, it'll be interesting to make choices as I go along. Some folks I'm sure will scratch their heads wondering why I go deep on some details, but avoid others altogether. Ahoy Chief... It does sound like quite the undertaking to construct a Titanic using 3D prints... I guess that is the future eh? High tech modeling! I appreciate the interest folks are showing... Especially considering that the Titanic is not exactly under-represented in ship modeling forums. It can seem a tired subject, but there are always new insights to be made and new approaches to try. I hope everyone stays with this voyage - some customizations are around the corner. Cheers Evan

Ahoy Marcus! Thanks for reaching out (and revisiting my log)... Yes - My contention is that the data and the after battle debrief suggests that the Constitution fired double-shotted rounds during the brief action with Guerriere. Cmdr. Martin did not seem to consider this to explain the ammunition usage. All is well on my end... I will be starting up again on this project once I have finished my commitment to build the Trumpeter 1/200 Titanic for my daughter. I think you have stumbled on that other build log already and I hope you follow along. I don't seem to have many followers on that project, but it is about to get more interesting with some customizations. I hope all is well with you and your family. Cheers! Evan

Drilling More Holes Time to drill the remaining three thousand portholes. (Very slight exaggeration) I had some concern that these might require pre-drilling some smaller centering holes to keep the bit from drifting and creating obvious misaligned ports across the side of the hull. There is a small industry around 3rd party guides to serve this need, but it seemed to me that I could fashion some workable guides on my own using stuff I already had laying around. I dug out my miscellaneous assortment of small tubing and went to work making some quick centering guides. These were whipped together by cutting some short lengths of telescoping tubes – the inner tube aligned to the appropriate porthole size and the outer tubes to sit flush with the hull: All bound together with a drop or two of CA glue. Not as elegant as what can be purchased from enterprising online hobbyists, but suitable in a pinch. These guides were slipped over the drill bit and held in place at ninety degrees while drilling. I didn’t need to drill all the way through the hull – only needed enough of a dimple to guide the larger bit. These worked like a charm. (Maybe once or twice I lost concentration and didn’t hold the guide flush to the hull resulting in a slightly off-center hole, but easily compensated for in the final step). For the final step, I first did a quick trigger squeeze to set the bit in the centering hole before drilling through the hull. In truth, I don’t think I needed these centering holes except for the largest porthole sizes. The bit size would generally match close enough in the small and medium porthole sizes that it didn’t allow for any drift. For the largest diameter I used the nearest size tubing and filed a beveled edge using a large coarse file. This helped to set the outer diameter tightly into the porthole and centered the innermost tube properly… Worked perfectly. Next, I needed to attend to the missing portholes on the upper stern counter. I again used the guidance from Mr. Boyd’s resource to find the proper spacing. These measurements were transferred to a length of Tamiya tape and the holes drilled through the template. Lastly, I noticed that the size of the portholes along the upper stern were a bit undersized based on the reference photo of the Olympic under construction: Using a larger bit, I drilled out the portholes to accommodate 1.5mm fiber optic filament. Much improved. All the portholes are now drilled out and good to go... Up next will be cutting out various doors and hull openings for future enhancements… Cheers, Evan

Drilling Holes Regardless of whether I light the kit or not, I will be drilling out the portholes and inserting fiber optic filament. Even without lighting the effect will be more realistic and practical for representing the glass. Like many folks, I found my way to the LighthouseLED online store for my filament. I could order by the foot with reasonable shipping costs. I’ve got 1.0mm, 1.5mm, 2.0mm and 2.5mm diameters to work with… I’m not drilling all those holes with a pin vise… no way. Here is a critical tool that I’ve had in my toolkit for a few years – a small Tamiya battery powered drill designed with plastic in mind: I bought mine on a Black Friday sale at a steep discount, but still worth the retail price. (It comes as a kit for easy assembly) Regular drills and rotary tools have high RPM that creates too much plastic-melting friction… This drill is just right for the job at hand. I’ve added a mini chuck for the micro-drill bits. You’ll also notice that I’ve cut out a strip of thin card paper and folded it back on itself to create a small spring to protect the hull surface from the front of the spinning chuck if I push all the way through during drilling. I am not concerned with exact scale port holes on my model. I’m working backwards from the filament diameters to determine what size holes to drill. For the smallest portholes I will use the 1.0mm filament and I want to drill a hole with a tight fit. I tested on a piece of scrap styrene and determined that the #62 size micro-drill bit is just the ticket. Not too loose, not too tight. Since the smallest portholes don’t need to have a pre-drilled centering hole, I was able to jump right into it… Nice clean holes drilled with no issues. Took me about 45 minutes to complete each side – making sure to hold the drill at 90 degrees to the hull each time. In addition to the kit portholes, I needed to add a few that were missing or needed to be relocated. These locations were marked with a green Sharpie pen and some Tamiya tape laid down to help with alignment. I used a common push pin to center a starter hole to guide the bit: The remaining holes were easily finished off and everything looks good… I’ll proceed to the next largest portholes in my next session. Cheers, Evan

Tom - A quick suggestion... You might sand down the centerline seam on the stern counter (and under the stern counter). That seam would not have been on the real ship and it would make a smoother surface for your TITANIC LIVERPOOL decals that eventually get applied there. Cheers Evan

Hello Tom - Just discovered your build... Nice start! Regarding the decks - I've seen other modelers add Gorilla Glue even with decks that have the self-adhesive backing. A very thin layer applied to the plastic surface seems to work wonders. You'll also want to be sure to apply a clear coat on your wooden decking before you glue it down. This'll help protect the surface and allow any excess glue that oozes out to be wiped clean without damage. Of course it'd make sense to try both on a sample of scrap decking to make sure the glue holds firm and any clear coat doesn't fog or otherwise discolor the wooden decking. Maybe experiment on the underside of the kit decking or a small piece of sheet styrene? I'll be happily following along on your build. Cheers Evan

Hull Corrections – Portholes and Doors The relative accuracy of the hull details on the Trumpeter kit are…perplexing. The starboard side seems to be nearly spot on as far as I can tell from various sources. Maybe one wayward porthole to fill and one small porthole to add. Portholes are in the right place and are the right size for the given deck level. The doors all appear to be correctly positioned. The port side on the other hand… Hmmm. I’ve relied on the work of a gentleman named Graham Boyd who posted a terrific set of detailed references on the Trumpeter TITANIC 1/200th model ONLY building tips and tricks Facebook site hosted by Gene Davis. I’ve done a cursory comparison of Mr. Boyd’s notes to some of the Titanic profile views available online and almost everything appears to align. There might be a small discrepancy on the port side superstructure where a door needs to be removed and replaced with a window, but otherwise all good. Here is a sample of Graham’s reference material: What to keep, what to remove, and proper drill sizes are all called out. Very useful. There are a lot of errors on the port side - portholes out of place and some mystery doors. You’ll see that I have marked up the kit hull with a black Sharpie pen to indicate portholes that need to be filled and doors that should be removed. The marked portholes are now filled and new portholes will be drilled nearby to more accurately reflect their actual position. I protected the rivet detail with tape before I sanded the filled portholes smooth. The port side has a couple of unneeded doors… The starboard side of the Titanic had a baggage door on the D deck level that opened into the 3rd class covered promenade area underneath the forward well deck. The kit is accurate on that side. However, there shouldn’t be a corresponding door on the port side, but Trumpeter put it there anyway. No big deal - easily removed. But it isn’t as though the Trumpeter designers just copied and pasted the starboard side details over to the port side resulting in all the errors... There are clear differences to the two sides that were intentionally made. Here is an example: The Titanic had four narrow doors that opened out from the “Ash Places” – two on each side at the E deck level. When Titanic was out on the open ocean the spent ash was disposed of using hydraulic ash ejectors. The ash was shoveled into deck grates near the coal bunkers where it was mixed with seawater and the slurry ejected under pressure 20 or 30 feet away from the ship. While in port, however, this practice was obviously frowned upon…and regulated. Probably not so much out of environmental concerns, but who’d want 30-foot arcs of sludge raining down on nearby ships or pleasure craft? Instead, while in port the ash was shoveled into canvas bags and hoisted up to one of the Ash Places to be eventually lowered into a lighter pulled alongside that presumably led to proper disposal ashore. These Ash Places and their outer doors were not symmetrical between port and starboard. Trumpeter got that right. The doors are in the right spots on either side, but inexplicably they’ve added a third narrow door on the port side that leads to a phantom Ash Place. I marked it for removal and put some tape on the hull to minimize the chance of hull damage if my blade slips. The remaining doors on the port side hull look to be correctly placed. Obviously most (all?) casual observers seeing my completed model are not gonna know whether the portholes are all correctly located, or any extraneous doors are included, but it gives me satisfaction knowing that a little more effort put things right. Some additional hull details need to be attended to, but I can’t put off drilling out the portholes forever… Cheers, Evan

Titanic Decks… For those not familiar with the Titanic I think it’ll be useful to insert a quick overview of the decks/levels of the ship: I captured part of the box art and added some quick labels. (The A deck can also be labelled as the Promenade deck) Some of these decks will get referenced at various points in my build log and this perspective might help folks follow along. Cheers, Evan

Ahoy Roger... Indeed, not only is the out of the box stern plating wrong - most of it is missing entirely. A victim as I say above of the limitations of plastic injection molding. There are terrific online resources that show the correct under counter plating for the Titanic and I have already added it all using styrene strips. I'm a few posts away from catching everyone up on that effort. (Love the work shown in your post!) Stay tuned! Evan

Wemattson - Thanks for following along! Sharp eye to notice the pinewood derby carrier on the workbench... Dates back a bunch of years when the kids were young! In the spirit of the current build I'll disclose another Pinewood derby ship: RMS Titanic and USS Midway. Both won the Grand Prize for design in their respective tournaments (slow as molasses down the track though!) Cheers Evan

Let’s discuss the Trumpeter Hull Titanic was a beautiful ship. Her lines were clean and graceful, and she sat on the sea with genuine stature. I think Trumpeter has done a very reasonable job in reflecting all of that in their one-piece hull. Unfortunately, this kit does suffer from underbody inaccuracies that seem inherent in all of Trumpeter’s 1/200 single molded hulls. I’m no expert on the injection molding process but it seems to me that it introduces limitations on the types of curves and angles that can be achieved in a plastic kit of this size. The kit designers had to make some practical compromises… I suspect that the large scale compels Trumpeter to use one-piece hulls – there’d likely be too much warpage if they tried two-piece half hulls. The larger size also means that the molding needs to be thicker than scale to minimize warping and waves in the form. We also see some of the hull plating detail missing on the bottom and underneath the counter because of the same injection molding limitations. The hull plating and rivet details are also a bit pronounced, but that is typical in many kits. Welcome to plastic modeling. With all this in mind, I still think that this hull is a nice effort and is very representative of the great ship. I can work with it. I will add plating to the underside (clinker built which adds to the fun) and underneath the stern counter. I will also try wherever possible to mitigate the overscale thickness of the sides. I have added some internal reinforcement bulkheads that I had ordered a few years ago from the Titanic Honor and Glory website store. This will eliminate any flex across the long hull span and help keep the lower decks aligned. I might only utilize the vertical bulkheads… The horizontal top pieces may not be needed – especially since they could interfere with the lower deck D Grand stairway in the kit. I’ll need to wait until after I drill out the portholes before finalizing the bulkheads into position. Cheers, Evan