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  1. Tyrone Martin states that US Frigate Constitution had no rope rails for gangways/ladders with the possible exception of the rearmost near the officer accommodations. Evan
  2. Thanks for this overview. I'm hoping Santa sticks this under my tree this year. Evan
  3. Frank - I see you've started in on the sails for your Victory. I like your initial effort with the spanker. So sorry that I've neglected my log... I have a few updates to add and I will have a good few weeks to do some modeling during the holiday break. I hope to have the hull halves glued together, the gun deck in place, and the false keel done. Thanks for your continued interest!
  4. I think your feline Boomer will rightly want to supervise construction - it is after all a "cat" boat and not a "dog" boat!
  5. Here is a link to a discussion on this in my log: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/270-uss-constitution-by-force9-revell-plastic-revisiting-the-classic-196-kit/page-2#entry8763 Evan
  6. There is much to unravel when attempting to lock in her appearance on any given date - especially August 19, 1812!!! Very nice start. I will sit in the first row to watch. Evan
  7. Jerry - Thanks for posting those more detailed photos of the McNarry model in the gallery. It really has to be seen to be fully appreciated. Markus - Chapelle has a nice overview of the rudder differences in his "History of the American Sailing Navy". I'll look for the page references. As I've indicated in my earlier post, Chapelle thinks the US Navy was an early adopter of this new rudder type - much sooner than the European navies. I have not been working on my model lately - it is too hot in my garage work space for comfort. We Californians are wimps in regard to summer heat waves... I do think I'll be back in action this weekend as the weather begins to moderate. Thanks all Evan
  8. For whatever it is worth... Some contemporary depictions: Crew clambering up rigging:
  9. Dan - an incredible result that I followed in stealth mode (along with many others I'm sure). Just to be overly crisp... The painting you cited was a knockoff... Here is the actual Thomas Birch painting of the Constitution/Guerriere battle: Quite a difference! Evan
  10. Ahoy Mike! Glad you've rediscovered my log... Hopefully you can be inspired to venture forth with nautical efforts and forego the aeronautical stuff for a time. I don't swim particularly well, but I KNOW I can't fly! Perhaps that is why I stick to ships. Work continues at a leisurely pace on my Connie... I am fiddling still with the deadeyes and chains with nothing notable to show for it yet. A few more weeks should yield some pictures. Thanks again to all who check in on my build. Evan
  11. Daniel - I was just admiring your terrific gun deck "diorama"... Can't imagine the time invested in recreating the chaos of a Trafalgar gun deck! Question - would there also be a stout crewman positioned at the inhaul tackle to prevent the many tons of gun from lurching forward in the next ocean swell while some luckless sailor was ramming home the next charge? Evan
  12. Matt - Thank you for the generous comment... I think third time might be a charm? I'd encourage anyone to take a crack at the Revell kit using a few extra touches to produce a very substantial representation of the great ship during her glory years. Time and patience are the key factors... The ring bolt below the first shroud is for the lower stuns'l boom... The Martingale tackle hooks to this point to hold the boom in position in conjunction with the topping lift. I won't display the boom swung out, but I thought the ring bolt should be there for accuracy. I'm glad someone noticed it! JCFrankie - I'm not too familiar with the intricacies of square rig seamanship, but my understanding is that the block would allow the forward shroud to be eased when going to windward or making a hard tack so that the courses could be pivoted around just a little bit more... That is why they aren't there on the mizzen - obviously no such thing as a mizzen course on the crojack yard. Those with more knowledge are free to correct my explanation... Thanks for taking an interest and thanks again to all for the "likes"! Hope to make a bit more progress on Father's day - modeling time is gifted to me already! Evan
  13. Lads... I've been laboring away at the build but haven't taken many photos along the way... And some that I have taken have gone missing in the nether world of my old hard drive. I'll pick up here with my progress and get the build log up to snuff. Firstly, I decided that my original location for the main sheet sheave holes was too far forward. They really should've been positioned aft a bit - centered in the gap between the main and mizzen shrouds. So I filled in the first version and laid in a new row of inner planking with rivet detail, etc. and painted it all to match. Then I redid the sheave holes and moved the cleat. You'll notice the addition of more cleats along the bulwark. My understanding is that halyards were NOT tied off to pin rails... Those tie off to cleats or bollards at the ends of the pin rails. I used the guidance from Olof Eriksen to position appropriate cleats to tie off the various halyards on either port or starboard. The cleats were quickly fashioned from Styrene I-Beams from Evergreen using the handy Chopper: Once sliced off of the stock piece, one end would be snipped and the remainder filed to shape and glued into a hole drilled almost thru the bulwark to maximize the surface area for holding power when glued. After the glue dried, I came back and painted with wood brown. Deadeyes: I've got the deadeyes all primed and painted to resemble wood with iron strops and light tarring (just smeared them with a dark wash). I wanted them to be wood-like- not entirely black. I've reamed out the holes in the channels and test fitted the initial batch on the fore channel. You'll also notice that the forward most shroud will lead to a triple block instead of a standard deadeye. (I've got a test version mocked up for now and should have something in place after I put the solder iron to work on the wire strops.) The Hull model in the Peabody Essex museum clearly shows the triple blocks fitted on the forward shrouds on the fore and main channels. The mizzen does NOT have this block - just the standard deadeye. This contradicts the guidance from Larry Arnot in the BlueJacket kit manual, but Mr. Eriksen confirms this approach against the Brady Naval Apprentice Kedge Anchor (Ed. 1841) Apparently these first shrouds would be eased or tightened as the ship changed tacks. As such, Eriksen refers to these as "Swifters" - although that term is a bit ambiguous to me. I know, for example, that the aft most shrouds on a channel were often referred to as the "Swifters" - they are not paired with another shroud when rigged and seem to have evolved from some sort of backstay in an earlier time. All part of the mysteries of rigging as I venture forth. Sorry for the delayed update and thanks again for all the Likes and interest. Evan
  14. That is very fine and precise craftsmanship! Were such booms used sparingly in that era? Evan
  15. Ahoy Popeye! I will also elbow my way thru the crowd to watch... I have the Commemerative edition of this kit that includes Pontos PE and decking. I don't think it is the most accurate version of the Titanic, but it is certainly representative of the great ship. I'm not a Titanic fanatic so I'm not counting missing port holes and worrying about much minutiae, but I did take the trouble to add the openings on the forecastle and stern decks. I also put some edging around the stern to help support the PE railings I didn't like the fit of the deck towards the bow so I scraped off the kit's molded ledge and replaced it with my own styrene version to help the deck sit even. Otherwise, I really like the fit and finish and have found it to be a terrific kit. Unfortunately, this is about as far as I've gotten, so I'll look to you for guidance going forward. Good stuff! Evan
  16. Ahoy... Apologies for the long interlude... Had some computer issues and had to upgrade my system to get back on track. I have made some progress on cleats, dead eyes and such and will post some pictures soon. In the meantime, I had a nice visit last week to the US Naval Academy museum... They have the other set of the Michel Felice Corne paintings of the Constitution vs Guerriere battle that were commissioned by Captain Hull. These are exquisite and I think I stared at them for at least 30 minutes: The series is hung in a bit of a jumble, but very visible. Here are some details of the stern. The ventilation ports under the counter are clearly visible - I'm glad I added those to my version. Rigging detail: Here is a detailed view from the Corne painting of the Tripoli campaign: The basement of the museum contains the gift store and the model maintenance workshop. It turns out that if you stare through the viewing window long enough (it helps to have a forlorn puppy dog expression as well) someone in the workshop will take pity and invite you inside for a tour. Jack was extremely generous with his time and showed me all the projects and some of the terrific tools - including a very nice rope serving set up and a clever/inexpensive micro-torch he built for detailed solder work. At some point I mentioned my own "learner's" project on the Revell Constitution and I was invited into the Curator's office to have a look at a "small Constitution" model kept on top of a file cabinet. It should be readily apparent that this is no ordinary model. In fact, this is a Donald McNarry masterpiece showing Constitution's early appearance. The pictures don't give a true perception of the small scale... I'd think it is 1/192 or thereabouts (less than half the length of my project) and each element is executed with unfathomable detail. The guns, boats, wire rigging, etc. are all incredible. I urged The curator to find a way to get it on the display floor, but he explained that there is not much room in the current display area for all of the incredible models in the museum collection. Gawd only knows what the thing is worth - especially after the passing of Mr. McNarry. The museum is a true treasure trove of American history. The collections include the original "Don't Give Up The Ship" flag, the actual table (and tablecloth) used for the Japanese surrender on board the USS Missouri (it was a mess table quickly adapted for use after the beautiful wooden table provided by the British turned out to be too small for the surrender documents), and the spur that snapped off the boot of John Wilkes Booth when he leaped off the balcony and got caught on the flag bunting - breaking his ankle on the landing. Folks should make the effort to visit Annapolis if at all possible - well worth the side trip from DC! I'll post some more project pictures later this week to catch everyone up on my progress. Thanks Evan
  17. Guys - Thank you all for following along. I should have some updates soon with my progress on dead eyes, cleats, and ring bolts. Robin - thank you for wading thru my build log... I wish you'd reconsider doing some paintings from this era. I still think no recent artist has done the Constitution/Guerriere battle correctly. Stay tuned! Thx Evan
  18. http://usscm.blogspot.com/2014/02/slip-shod-truth-about-early-navy-shoes.html
  19. Chris - I was wandering the fields of Gettysburg during the big anniversary in 2013 and came across a guy in his Union Lieutenant uniform and struck up a nice conversation as we walked thru the wheat filed... turns out he was some sort of attorney involved with helping the Civil War trust reclaim battlefield land... In the distance we could hear cannon booms from the neighboring farms where the reenactment events were in full swing. Added an appropriate ambiance to my touring of the hallowed ground that day! Good to know you haven't sunk beneath the waves somewhere... hope to see some of your work posted soon! Evan
  20. Cheers Frank and Popeye! Folks - I've reached that point in the build where there is nothing more I can do to delay the inevitable... I have to start accounting for the rigging and making sure that I've incorporated the necessary end points into the half hulls before I start to glue it all together. I consulted the usual suspects: 1. The Revell rigging plans 2. The Bluejacket kit manual and rigging plans - Larry Arnot/Tyrone Martin 3. AOTS USS Constitution - Karl Heinz Marquardt 4. CONSTITUTION - All Sails Up and Flying - Olof Eriksen 5. The Charles Ware 1817 Sail plan (National Archives) 6. The "Hull" model in the Peabody Essex Museum (PEM) collection. I've been poring over these different representations of the rigging layout of Old Ironsides for many months and have started to form some sort of plan. For the most part I will follow the guidance of Olof Eriksen, but fall back on the Bluejacket plans in some cases. Eriksen's work is focused on her 1815 configuration, so I'll try to insert some 1812 era modifications wherever appropriate - mostly using the Hull model for corrections. Ultimately this is all going to involve a fair bit of guesswork and intuition tempered by the realities imposed by the Revell model itself. In some cases the molding of the hull will impose limitations that are more than I'm willing to modify - I'll just roll with what is there. Here is my first compromise: Some may recall that I eliminated the chesstree included in the kit and filled in the holes at the gun deck level that originally allowed for the Fore Sheet and Main Tack to enter and get tied off within... I just feel that by 1812 these lines would've been led to the spar deck to allow for better control and coordination. Eriksen shows the Fore Sheet entering thru a sheave in the spar deck bulwark just forward of the last carronade before the break in the bulwark at the waist. The Revell kit does not have much of a bulwark at that point. I couldn't widen it because the "entry port" is situated here with the cleats/steps leading up the side. I was not willing to move that stuff over with all that scratch building... Marquardt offers a solution. He shows a sheave added on the waist for the Fore Sheet to pass thru and tie off to a cleat mounted nearby on the deck. Do I think this is historically accurate? Nah... But it suits my purpose. The first eyebolt near the sheave is the tie off for the Fore Sheet. The eyebolt mounted forward on the waist near the fo'c's'le bulwark will eventually have a block mounted for the Main Tack to lead inboard. I still need to drill the hole just aft of the fore channel for the Main Tack tie off point. Here is the sheave I cut into the spar deck bulwark for the Main Sheet: I mounted a cleat on the inside to tie off the Main Sheet: More to come shortly Thanks for the interest Evan
  21. I've pulled up my chair to the very front to watch this unfold. Fabulous approach. Evan
  22. Fantastic. Looks like she fits right in with the rest of your beautiful home. Very well done. Evan
  23. So... A couple of comedians! Don't people remember that she was called "Old Ironsides"???!! - She never absorbed any damage! Everything bounced off!!! Well, at least it all bounced off for my model. Here is the latest... It is amazing how many holes need to be drilled into a sailing ship model! I've been busy with the mini spiral drill and #76 bit for the past few weekends. It is also amazing to uncover the various nuances that go into these builds. I've been drilling the many small holes for the Jotika eyelets that will be installed around the interior of the gun ports. Most references indicate the breeching terminating on a ring bolt positioned near the trucks in line with the bottom of the gun port. The outhaul tackle, however, is often shown leading at an angle to an eyelet positioned about midway between the two guns. It would seem to me to be more efficient if this tackle ran more parallel to the gun barrel - no waste in lateral effort when hauling on the tackle. That would seem to be the arrangement on most of the contemporary ship models... An eyebolt for the outhaul tackle positioned about midway up on the gun port and near the opening. The ring bolt for the breeching rope positioned directly below in line with the bottom of the port. We can also see this type of set up on the remarkable War of 1812 wrecks of the Hamilton and Scourge that lie preserved at the bottom of Lake Ontario. Both were swamped by a sudden squall and lost at the same time. (Actually the wrecks were once remarkably well preserved but have now become encrusted with an invasive species of mussel): The boarding cutlasses are very cool. Here is the approach I took: None of these eyelets are glued in... Just a sample of positioning. I'll blacken them and glue the upper eyelets, but I'll attach the lower ring bolts to the breeching rope when I rig the cannon off the ship before attaching these to the bulwarks. Evan
  24. Folks Today marks the 200th anniversary of Constitution's last great victory - defeating both Cyane AND Levant in a nighttime action. I'm busy drilling holes and should have something to show in a few days. Stay tuned! Evan
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