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Cutty Sark 1869 by crooman - Constructo - scale 1:115 - Launched in Dumbarton, Scotland


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I hope I am going about this the right way.

It is my first time to attempt a build log so if I am making mistakes I would welcome correction.

This, the Cutty Sark was given to me by my son more or less as you see it. I only have applied the planking veneers to the aft [?} deck and am now shaping and sanding the aft wedges.post-9347-0-16994600-1389633131_thumb.jpgpost-9347-0-35271000-1389633149_thumb.jpgpost-9347-0-29085100-1389633171_thumb.jpg

Crooman

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That looks ok now-I've seen worse!post-9347-0-74183900-1389635975_thumb.jpg

As this is the second model of this ship I have built, I just thought I would stick in a picture of it.

Can anybody tell me where I could get 

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Wish you luck with your build. Fir now it seems nice and clean

 

What scale is your CS? Will nail holes be visible? I had that idea, but leave it. In my scale (1:100 or 1:96) them should be so little, and somewhere in building I decide to follow natural colours of CS, so, nails are not visible on Her. Depends what you like, and hlw much time want to invest in such a thing

Holes on deck naturaly lead to holes on hull, what mean - a couple of thousand.

 

Keep posting please

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Here is a photo of the scored deck planks.

I think the pencil marking is a help.

 

 

 

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Also I forgot to put in the photo of the earlier completed model, done about 10/12 years ago.

Can anybody tell me where I can get the correct flag, the Red Duster?

 

 

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I have finally started to bend the hull planks by soaking in boiling water for 15 minutes then bending gently over a hot soldering iron.

If the bend is not sufficient, I soak some more and bend again on the iron.

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Bending planks is still  mistery for me

 

Please put some photos of bending

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Nenad,

I hope this is helpful:

I use masking tape to hold the planks in place while the glue is drying, as I do not want to have the hull full of holes and anyway the tape is easier to use than the pins.

 

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Below is a fish kettle I use to soften the planks.

                                                                   

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I half fill it with boiling water and while the timbers are in it,2 at a time is all I do, I keep the water at a gentle boil for 15 minutes.

Then I take one out and move it back and forth over the hot soldering iron.It is important to keep it moving as the wood will scorch easily. However, if you heat the wood on the inside of the bend, then scorch marks will be next to the frames and will not be visible.

 

                                                                                       

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On the last model I made some years ago, I got a glass flask, rubber tubing and a 400mm long glass tube from a laboratory supplier.

Steam from the boiling water is passed through the glass tube in which I put the wood to be softened.

The main thing is to do the bending in easy stages.heat/bend;heat/bend and so on until you get the desired shape.

 

 

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This is what it looks like now, so far.

 

 

 

 

 

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I must try this technique

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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  • 3 weeks later...

So fellow modellers here is where i am at so far.

I had quite a bit of trouble bending the hull planks, many broke but I glued them back together again and sanded the joints so they look ok now.

 

 

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I have not got the ends of the planks at the bow properly even, so I will have to cut them back and fit new pieces,glue and sand.

I must be running out of sand paper !

I found that the gallant rails are of such hard wood that it was very difficult to push the holding pins through them so I drilled tiny holes  first and then it was easier to push the pins through.

Best wishes to you all.

Crooman

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You are at the very delicate stage of building. 100 x putty and sand and look, and do it again until you will be satisfied with hull lines

 

Wish you luck and patience

 

As Burga said: there is nothing that sanding and putty can not correct.

 

Do you plan second layer planking ?

 

Nenad

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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No, I do not plan to second layer plank. I will be painting the hull black in part and coppeer in the rest so I hope the imperfections will not be visible-and there are lots of them!

I have put on the deck latrines and am doing the single and clump blocks.

Your idea Nenad of using fine cord to tie them around is terrific and so realistic, but I do not have the patience for that and so am using wire as per the instructions.

So,a few more photos.

 

 

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The rudder caused me a lot of trouble, breaking repeatedly, so it is not perfect-far from it.

I still have a lot of sanding down to do before I varnish and paint,but that can wait for the present.

Patience is the pre-requisite !!!

Crooman.

 

                                   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Can anybody tell me where I can get the correct flag, the Red Duster?

 

Bob,

 

I made the flags, including the Red Duster, myself, using the method described here. But by searching the Internet you can also find a lot of shops where you can order ready-made ones, like this shop. I'm a bit late in responding, but being the same age you'll certainly understand how busy pensionados are.

 

Lou

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Thank you gentlemen for your kind comments.

Perhaps a well sanded down and varnished hull will be the best.

As for the red duster, I fully appreciate your delay in answering my plea !

I will investigate as you suggested Bob.

I think I will leave the figurehead till last as I would only knock it off !!!

Crooman.

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Maybe you hurry a while with mounting dead eyes and toilets in this stage (I did, and that was mistake). During coopering, Her Majesty need to be turned upside down, and what happeness with dead eyes then?

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Still working away slowly and at the same time listening to Andre Rieu and his performance in Masstrict with Benny Neyman,who sadly died a few years ago .

My wife and I simply love his rendition of Ode to Maastrict..I hope to learn all the words and the music on my Bechstein piano [!] to sing and play on the occasion of our 50th wedding anniversary next year.

I just thought you all would want to know that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best wishes my fellow ship builders.

Crooman.

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Bob,

 

A former colleague of mine asked his boss "What can I do for you at your retirement party?" His boss answered "You can play me Red Sails in the Sunset on a saxophone." My colleague borrowed a saxophone, practised for 4 months and played the tune at the party, with great success. It was the only tune he could play and he never touched a saxophone again.

 

There is still time, brother.

 

Lou

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Nenad,

in reply to yours,

i have decided not to copper the hull or even paint it but instead leave it in the natural timber state.

So I am safe enough to have done what i have done.

In the meantime I am finding tying all these little knots with my old fingers a bit of a trial, however i will persist.

Crooman.

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I decided to attach the clump blocks and the single blocks to the cat heads with fine cord as supplied.

It looks more natural rather than using wire.

So Nenad, I am following your good advice.

Bob [Crooman]

 

 

 

 

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There is a lot of tidying up to be done but that is for another day.

 

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Cutty Sark as any other clipper sail ship look marvelous with all sails spreaded, even in natural wood colour. I was thinking about that solution when started, because I like very much  natural colour of the wood, but when I was jamed with planking hull, I gave up, and decide to paint model, to cover my un-knowledge about planking. For natural wood colour, all planks must be ( or even to look on same way) on their right place

 

I wish you not to damage sensitive outside parts you mounted on further works (Boomkin and chain) 

 

Keep on, my friend

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Well, this is where I'm at now. Slowly but surely. I notice that this model, has several small differences between it and the one I made some years ago, both by Constructo, so I wonder which is true to the real CS ?

Has anyone had this experience with this or other models?

Bob.

 

 

 

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Bob,

The deck is now white,and mahogany before;

The capstan is now brass, not wooden and a different shape;

The handrails are very much inferior in quality and strength;

There are single and clump blocks on the outside of the hull, but none originally;

The windlass is completely different in construction;

There are no ladders to the foredeck in the original;

I think that's all I can see for the present!!.

Bob.

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Well, three weeks have gone by since my last post. I have nearly finished the deck furniture but I am disappointed to see that the cabins have only got holes for portholes, whereas the earlier model I made had brass portholes fitted and the different coloured woods used were much more attractive than in this model.

However, I am trying to stick to the plans and perhaps whenever it is finished it wont look too bad.

Best wishes to you all.

Bob.

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Hi All fellow modellers.

It's been 6 weeks since I posted, but have been working away steadily on Cutty,

I find that threading the blocks on the masts to be a real pain, you know where,but again perseverance is the only answer.

Also as I had eye surgery 3 weeks ago hasn't helped.

Am including some up to date photos and would welcome any comments.

Hope its warmer wherever you are-its 8 degrees here in Dublin today.

Guess I will have to put a fireplace in the ship!!

Bob Crooman.

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I find that threading the blocks on the masts to be a real pain, you know where,but again perseverance is the only answer.

 

 

Hi Bob,

 

Did you use a needle threader like this one?

 

By the way, she's looking good. No need to put her in the fire place. Or was it the other way around?

 

Lou

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No Lou I did not as the blocks are the oblong ones with one hole and a groove on the outside.

Getting the thread to stay in position over the grooves was the trouble but I found the putting a tiny drop of wood glue on both ends made the thread

stay in place while i tightened it.

I will try to attach a close up photo.

Yes, the fireplace goes inside the ship!

Thanks for the tip about the threader- i will certainly use one if i can find one in the sewing box of She Who Must Be Obeyed !

Bob.

sorry the picture is so fuzzy.

 

 

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