BANYAN Posted February 27, 2013 #1 Posted February 27, 2013 Could I please seek the opinion of the more experienced members in determining the diffence between the terms Cable laid and cabled used by Steel in his tables. When refering to some ropes he states "cabled" while for others he states "Cable Laid". Initially I assumed it was the same thing stated differently; but why, within the same table would he do so - there had to be a specific purpose ot reason for using the different terms? Many thanks Pat If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Jim Lad Posted February 27, 2013 #2 Posted February 27, 2013 Pat, I'm familiar with 'cable-laid' and 'cablet', but 'cabled' is a new one. In what context does Steel use it? John
BANYAN Posted February 27, 2013 Author #3 Posted February 27, 2013 Hi John, in his tables (first column - description) he uses these terms. I don't have a copy with me so will respond later when I can scan ad show). For some he uses the term Cabled (I think for preventer) and for other Cable laid (shroud?) This may be the other way around so I will need to check to be specific. cheers Pat If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Modeler12 Posted February 28, 2013 #4 Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) I am sorry that I am not one of the more experienced members, but I would think that the two would be the same. I would say that the author may have been 'lazy' and abbreviated 'cable-laid' (which we all know refers to a "rope' made from three ropes twisted together). I would also say that this kind of 'rope' was used for anchors and not shrouds or stays. Being new to this hobby, I am still confused about the difference between 'yard' and 'crossjack'. Isn't the latter also a yard? Edited February 28, 2013 by Modeler12 Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . .
druxey Posted March 4, 2013 #5 Posted March 4, 2013 The crossjack is indeed a yard, but one not set with a sail. Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Jim Lad Posted March 4, 2013 #6 Posted March 4, 2013 Except in the case of late19th/early 20th century full rigged ships, Druxey! John
Modeler12 Posted March 5, 2013 #7 Posted March 5, 2013 Ok, one more question about jack. If he is a spar as well as being cross, why are there 'jackstays' on the topsail spars above him? Is it because they have the upper hand? At least that's what my Conny plans show; and I follow those pretty closely. Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . .
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