Help! Jokita HMS Supply

[mick868]

I'm having difficulty with the 1st planking of HMS Supply, basically I'm not sure what the profile should be at the stern, the instructions are very vague and I can't find a good picture in the gallery to guide me.  The main difficulty I'm having is with the shape below the stern gallery. 

[hornet]

I am a little ahead of you on the Caldercraft Supply. Just installing copper plating. Hope these pics of the stern section are of help. I did not use the stern counter pattern supplied (part 73) I used the supplied one as a template and then cut one out of thinner basswood and planked it.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

[hornet]

Hi again Mick868

 

Further good pics of the Supply can be found at the address below. It is in a slightly different configuration but the pics are fairly high resolution and are worth a look. Picture Number 6 is a stern view of the model and may also help you with your build.

 

Hope this helps

 

http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=238338&img=182799

Edited November 10, 2014 by hornet

[mick868]

Thanks Hornet, that's just what I was looking for.  I was looking at coppering my hull but thought Supply was a little too early to have had a coppered hull ?

 

Mick

[hornet]

Hi Mick

 

As to coppering of the hull. I original tossed up between buying the Caldercraft Supply and the Modeller's Shipyard version (see link below)

The modellers Shipyard version is coppered but was a lot more expensive. While in communication with modellers Shipyard, I was told that Supply was indeed coppered.  If you check out the history of coppering hulls of Royal Navy  you will see that the process begun in 1779. Wikipedia states " all ships up to and including 44 gun ships were  ordered to be coppered when  next in dry dock" By 1786 the entire fleet was apparently sheathed. The Supply remained in service to the Royal Navy until 1791 and was the  used as a coal carrier until 1806. One would have to assume therefore that she was coppered at some stage in her long career. I presume that Caldercraft did not include copper plates to keep costs of the kit down. I actually pinched the copper plates from my Caldercraft HMS Bounty kit (next in line to be built) and in the same scale.  I ordered some more for her from Cornwall Model Boats. They supplied and are  delivering the plates for less than half the price that I can get them in Australia - Go Figure???

 

http://www.modelshipyard.com.au/ship-models/modellers-shipyard/hms-supply-first-fleet-1788/

Edited November 11, 2014 by hornet

[mick868]

Looks like I might be coppering mine then, I coppered my HMS Pandora and even though I couldn't get exactly the right sized copper plates it looked right when finished.  It helped to have the 'Anatomy of the Ship' book as a reference.  I notice on your photos that you are plating the bottom of the keel with copper.  I thought this was covered in lead along with the leading and trailing edges of the rudder, when i built pandora I used thin tin sheet to simulate the lead, once it oxidised it looked fine.

[hornet]

In reality you may be correct Mick. I am no expert on the history or the plating of ships in the 'real world.' This is only the second ship I have coppered and I have looked at a lot of models on this site for guidance and watched the 'Modellers Shipyard' DVD guide to coppering a hull. They all seem to be coppered in a similar fashion. Thanks for the information though, I will do some research. It wouldn't be hard to remove the plates and replace them with something else if necessary. I haven't built the rudder yet either.

 

If anyone else out there could shed some light on this issue in relation to modelling, I'd appreciate the input!!

Edited November 20, 2014 by hornet