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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Just one extra post in this topic. As many of you already know I'm busy on a modelkit of the Batavia. This comes available 2nd half of june. It is possible for me to send worldwide, but have to consider postal costs and dutypapers. Please feel free to have a look at my website as mentioned hereunder.
One of the items in the box is the lantern. This is made of three cast resin pieces - the base and the cap, and the middle piece of transparent resin:
This is the rough version - it needs some sanding and of course painting. I will post a painted version later.
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
It's all going a bit slow at this moment - due to other projects and things I'm working on.
However - I know you are all eager waiting for further steps.
Busy on the bow, made some ornaments out of small coins.
That's all I can show for now - sorry.
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Thanks guys.
December is a busy month - it has been a while since my last pictures.
The structure on the ship is getting in shape more and more:
And in the meantime cutted some wood for the oars:
I figured out (being a mechanical engineer) that the structure of the original kit isn't made in the proper way - looking where the oars will come. To my opinion the whole structure will distort when speeding up the rowing (when the captain wants to waterski f.i.)
The immense forces on the structure aren't brought to the hull when the diagonal beams are lacking. So I added them.
View on the front with its closed nose:
And the deck being placed:
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Update.
Busy on the structure on the ship, all done in oak sticks of 4 x 4 mm - cut in length - with dowels and coppernail mounting.
Not really boring, but not the most exciting job to do. Just some pictures:
structure for the third row of seats
Impressive view
and
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
As promised: pictures of making the holes for the oars:
First step is to mark the right spots and rough diameter. I used an old fashioned letter template for this:
Then simply drill the holes with a 3 mm drill (rather difficult to drill and make a photo - the drill is actually turning, but the flash makes it not visible):
With a round cutter widened the wholes until the approx diameter is reached:
Then with some sort of whetstone (don't know how else I should call this) in the right diameter done the last step:
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
In fact this ship isn't that difficult. After making the substructure for the second row of seats I added the deck in between them. Quite simple with wooden stirrers again.
After this I started with aging the oak by treating it with ammoniac. This gives a dark shade over the wood. Not sure if I will stain it further - have to make some samples
Also made the first row of holes for the oars:
And I started with the frames for the third row of seats:
Here my new circular saw is quite handy
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Would be nice Don!
I just have finished the structure for the second row of seats, after having removed all the bulkheads.
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
New set of pictures:
Bow - including reinforcement is getting in shape more and more:
On the inside the structure for the second row of seats is mounted. For the small view you might have inside I have added some extra vertical planks. The original frames will be removed.
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Planking of the hull is merely finished - and the ram on the bow is getting its shape.
When you make a mixture of oakdust and diluted white glue the oak will start to discolor to black a bit.
Fortunately this again will be covered by the further planking of the bow and the ram.
And a few pictures for Don, showing the inside so far:
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
As said - oak is quite tough to use.
But I managed to close the hull, will have to do some more sanding, and add some extra planks on both sides.
This is the image I use as example for my build:
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
I have to make a big apologize to all the readers - because I made a big mistake in scale.
The Batavia on the picture is 1:72 - but the Trireme is 1:35 (the original kit is 1:72) - ooopppsss
This means the trireme is "only" about 35 meters or 100 feet..
Here some pictures for a better idea - the bireme and the trireme
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Some people in Holland asked me to make a picture of the trireme compared to some other recognizable thing.
Both are scale 1 : 72 - about 55 meters long (180 feet)
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Bending the oak strips 3 x 3 mm works quite well, but they have to be soaking wet. There is only one problem, it is quite difficult to twist them as well in the round areas. Sanding the hull must do the trick in the end...
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
From a bunch of wooden stirrers I had bought I have made the deckplanking of the lowest deck, and some oak beams (glued 4 of them on each other). These Beams are the base of the seats (made out of beech). Two small undeep holes plus some oak stain make the dowel-mounting of the seats:
For the planking a rather strong curving is neccesary. As I have planned to make the hull out of oak I first tried to bend some oak strips 6 x 2 mm over the "wrong" side, but even after two days in water this did not work.
After some adjustments on my circular saw I now can make oak strips 3 x 3 mm - will try out the next days if this will work.
4 x 4 mm was still a bit to thick.
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
After finishing my first scratch build - VOC Retourship Batavia - I will now start with something completely diffirent, a Greek Trireme.
Trireme means literally three oars - three rows of oars placed above each other.
For one of my sons, who is studying archeology and has a great interest in the ancient Greek culture I already made a Bireme - two oars. This one is in scale 1:35.
The European modelbuilder Krick also has a Trireme in its program, so we decided to buy and built this one:
But this is in scale 1:72 and built it will be about 51 cm long. About the same as the Bireme.
So we decided to lay the kit aside and use the plans to upscale the thing to 1:35 scale - making it twice as big as the Bireme, but in the same scale.
This means a model of over 1 meter (3 ft) and making everything yourself - keel - bulkheads - planking etc.
Therefore this topic in the scratch-build section.
First step to do was to upscale the plans, with my copier and some old fashioned carbonpaper:
After that the jig saw and after sawing and fitting the first result:
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Batavia by *Hans* - FINISHED
Well this is it, she is finished. Maybe to the left or to the right some things could be added or improved, but I consider her ready. Last pictures:
Thank you for watching! You were a nice audience!
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*Hans* reacted to Tecko in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
@lmagna, @Jack12477, @BANYAN, @BenF89, @mcpwilk, @michael mott, @druxey, @oneslim, @mtaylor, @paulsutcliffe, and @DBorgens.
Thank you all so much for your support and encouraging comments. Needed them more than you realise.
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Finally got through making 24 square feet of surafce water by using paper mache technique. It was one job I had lots of apprehension about, but not as intense as the one that is coming up - painting it.
Anyway, as usual I started with the least noticeable section of the display (far left corner) and worked my way to the more noticeable (near right corner). Hoping I will improve the technique as I progress. This became true, and had to return to earlier sections to patch it up a bit.
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*Hans* reacted to Tecko in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
Thanks for complement.
Just to let you know, this whole project/diorama is my first model. So, no I have not done this before.
Have spent a fair amount of time on the Internet to find out what to do, such as the wood debris, grass, and cork rocks. Also, I do a lot of experiments and tests. When I feel confident, then I go and do it.
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*Hans* reacted to Tecko in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
Thank you @BANYAN, for your response.
Thank you @mtaylor, @paulsutcliffe, @druxey, @KeithAug, @Jack12477, and @BenF89 for your 'likes'.
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It has come to my attention that the whole display / diorama has not been seen for a while.
So here are some photographs:
I found it quite difficult to take single photo of the whole lot. It's like cramming myself into a corner to take the shot.
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*Hans* reacted to Tecko in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
Thank you @mtaylor, @oneslim, @prutser, @BANYAN, @Omega1234, @Jack12477, and @paulsutcliffe for your reactions and comments.
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Well Pat, that is a problem. We need to fix that up somewhat...with The Whopper!
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*Hans* got a reaction from Tecko in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
Good Idea btw to use a blender for this (but I suppose your wife did not know about this :-).
But you have to clean your blender thoroughly, otherwise you'll end up with smoothies fortified with pieces of wood. I don't know if that is healthy!
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*Hans* got a reaction from Omega1234 in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
Good Idea btw to use a blender for this (but I suppose your wife did not know about this :-).
But you have to clean your blender thoroughly, otherwise you'll end up with smoothies fortified with pieces of wood. I don't know if that is healthy!
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*Hans* reacted to Tecko in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
Thank you fellow model builders @BANYAN, @GrantGoodale, @paulsutcliffe, @druxey, @oneslim, @Omega1234, @KeithAug, and @mtaylor for your reactions.
Thank you Pat and Mark for your comments. Much appreciated.
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All we need now is a brand new red buoy.
As usual, an ad hoc assembly of found items.
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*Hans* got a reaction from mtaylor in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
Bought at the fish market two blocks away? Haha - serious fun, and a nice crane!
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*Hans* got a reaction from Tecko in Wardell Bridge and boat by Tecko - 1:72 - diorama
Bought at the fish market two blocks away? Haha - serious fun, and a nice crane!
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