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I'm building the Scotland from Corel. Since it is double planked, I am wondering if I should do the first layer using accurately (take measurements, use drop planks etc) as shown on the guide on the site. Is it necessary to do this? Even if it isn't necessary, I want to have a nice look on the second layer. Should I use these techniques for the second layer, or will it also not be necessary there since they are shorter planks? How do I avoid making the planks on the hull look too curvy (like a really happy smiley face).
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Hey sygreen, did you use drop planks and the like when planking the hull (as shown here: http://modelshipworldforum.com/resources/Framing_and_Planking/plankingprojectbeginners.pdf) or did you just lay the planks regularly? I am worried that if I continue planking the downward the planks are going to get too curved, like a really happy smiley face. How did you do this part? Any advice?
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Looks someone already answered your question Tasanhalas. There are some other wooden lathes with really subtle difference. If you want to be really sure, you can also use callipers to make sure the the dimension matches the manual.
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Hey Sygreen, I just took a look. It seems you did it correctly actually (but a bit different from the manual). I think there's supposed to be 2 planks on top of lathe 27 like you did. It even shows it in some of the drawings. I did that too and am sanding the top most plank to make it flush with the deck house. It's a little hard to explain. I'll post pics when it's done and you can let me know what you think please! btw, catching up on your build log, it seems like you were down to scrap with the material too. You're right, they really give you exactly how much you need. I had to go to the hobby shop and pick up some extra planking to finish the deck.
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hey sygreen! and welcome to my log benjy! I haven't been active lately, I was really busy with school, but I'm back now. Here's a pic of where I'm at right now. I'm doing the side deck planking. Deck detailing done with pencil: current stage: I'm not sure how to do the planking above lath 27 (the one that ends at the deck house). It seems like there's no where to stick the planks on to. Unless I maybe use the thin side and super glue. Can someone advise?
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wow! you've been productive! looks really nice, good job! I've been away for a while but back now
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welcome tasanhalas, I'm doing the same ship too. looking forward to follow your log. (check out mine too!)
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I haven't been posting in a while, but I'm continuing the model at a slow and steady pace. I finished the deck and some of the stern and am now working on planking the sides. Will post pics soon. over and out.
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Hey sygreen, I'm on this step as well. I've been working really slow on the ship, but I'm still around. I thought this pdf was really useful: http://modelshipworldforum.com/resources/Framing_and_Planking/plankingprojectbeginners.pdf edit: by the way how did you glue the 6x1 strip to the deck? It can be glued easily near the raised front deck and quarterdeck, in between it's pretty thin there.
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Thanks tulok and mog!! tulok, what you said makes sense, I'll try some tung oil
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Actually, scoring between the planks with a very think crafts knife has been giving some very nice results. I'm gonna try going at it with a 0.3 mm pencil too. Thanks for the suggestions!
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Thanks everyone, someone requested that I post a picture. Here it is. My complaint is that it's really white and almost a bit flat looking without the separation of the planks being emphasized anymore because of the excess sanded materials filling the voids. Thanks for your suggestions. Do you guys think I should restart or is it salvageable. Maybe the varnish will bring out the grain a little? Or some light stain?
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couple of questions: 1. I over sanded my deck and now it's lost its graininess and colour. I don't want to use any paint on my boat and one with just a natural wooden nice looking finish. What should I do to correct this? 2. Should I build the whole boat first and then worry about the finish? Or should I apply stains/varnish and so on step by step? For example, should I varnish the deck before planking the sides of the boat and installing the masts? Thanks!
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Thanks everyone. I found some CA debonder at my local hobby shop. It worked really well, and works much better than acetone. Maybe a little too well. Some planks came loose! I soaked the stain areas with debonder for a few hours, and some sanding (400 grit) got rid of all the CA stains. The chemical is called Gamma butyrolactone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Butyrolactone It's also great for getting rid of CA on fingers (way quicker than acetone). Lesson learned though, I am going to avoid CA except when necessary from now on.
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I have a few wood glue stains on my deck and some CA glue stains on the stern. Does anyone have any suggestions how to get rid of them as I find they really ruin the aesthetics of the ship. I thought of using some nail polish but perhaps that would make it worse? I attached some pics:
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Thanks everyone, I used downward strokes with fine grain sand paper, toe nail cutters, some water and and x-acto knife and got a pretty good result after some patient work.
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Thanks! I'll try a finer grit
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Does anyone have a suggestion for how to cut and get a nice curved shape for the planks near the bow? I'm using an x-acto knife and sandpaper right now but I'm scared to splinter and fray the planks.
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Thanks for the link sygreen. I followed it and decided to go for the simplest planking since it's my first build. Anyone have a good suggestion on how to shape the planks near the bow to have a nice curved shape? The problem is that the planks are quite fragile. I tried wetting it and tracing with a knife and I also tried sandpaper (for the first ones). But I can't really get a nice fluid natural shape without splintering them. See pic:
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Thanks sygreen, will do. A couple of questions: 1. Did you use 70mm pieces of planking? I checked your build log and it seems like 2 pieces of your planking fit perfectly to join from the rear raised deck to the front deck. But the middle deck is longer than 140mm. 2. If there is going to be another layer of planking on top of this one, why pay all this attention to detail or even cut them into identical strips? 3. Do you have any resources or instructions for planking the deck? Most of what I found on the site talks about the hull but I couldn't find much about deck planking. I couldn't figure out what you meant by 2,3,4, or 5 step planking.
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Due to an unfortunate accident with beverages and my computer. I was a little distracted from updating my build log. I got a new computer last week and am posting my first update now. Due to a mistake I made earlier, I had to remove the deck and realign it after sanding around the deck house. I put everything back together and it looks fine now. I also attached the forecastle and the second raised deck near the stern. Removing the deck earlier though didn't go totally smoothly, It ripped a little near the back. I think this part will be planked over however. Any suggestions to minimize the damage done?
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It looks beautiful sygreen. I'm back after a bit of absence and will start updating my log too. The advice about avoiding splintering was especially useful.
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frame protrudes from deck
harbm replied to harbm's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Got it. Thanks Casey and everyone. I'll post pics on my log when it's ready.
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