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Hi Mario,

Pleased to see your Echo Cross Section log back in action, excellent work on the frames, my friend, very neat and clean work

Thanks very much for the help, Druxey, I appreciate it

Hi Toni,

Just catching up with your HMS Atalanta log, remarkable work there, she's looking great, I'll be keeping a weather eye on your beautiful build

Thanks very much for your inputs, M., Tony, and Druxey, I appreciate it

M., the excellent bashing you've done to your Pegasus kit has really inspired me to also improve my ship

Toni, I've had a look at your HMS Atalanta build and I believe congratulations are in order, you're doing a marvelous job on your build Ma'am and I hope to someday build one of these beautiful fully framed Swan Class ships. I've been keeping tabs on Danny's build way back on the old logs up to now and he has been very kind to lend me a helping hand in my humble little ship. I will be keeping an eye on your masterpiece.

Hi Druxey,

Thanks  very much for chiming in and sharing your inputs, it's nice to hear from the Master of Swan Class ships   

I have resized the TFFM vol II plans to 1/64 and made a simplified mock up of the exposed portions of the mast partners based on my understanding of the texts and your explanation:

I understand that the fore and aft edges of the cross chocks should pass underneath the head ledges of the fore and main hatch coamings, however to avoid the difficult work, I plan to just trim the fore and aft edges of the cross chocks and just let them butt tightly against the coamings as seen below:

Did I interpret the texts and plans correctly?

One more thing that really bothers me is this NMM deck plan showing that the opening of the main mast partner is an octagonal shaped structure: 

Does this mean that the plan reflects an "unfinished" mast partner, or would it be more accurate for my particular ship if I follow the contemporary plan and just go for an octagonal mast wedge as seen below?

Once again, your opinions would be much appreciated, and I apologize in advance if my questions may seem a bit silly, I'm just learning the ropes on these new nautical terms

Hi guys,

I need some help from our Swan Class experts as well as our other members familiar with David Antscherl's TFFM series of books. 

I've been reviewing the section on Fore and Main-Mast partners on the gun- /upper deck (TFFM Vol II, pp 61-63) and I'm interested in adding the exposed portions of these mast partners (i.e. the areas protruding above the deck planking) to my Pegasus kit.

Below is the NMM upper deck plan of Pegasus showing the main mast partner encircled in red:

Based on this, as well as the TFFM plans, I drew my four interpretations of this particular component:

Drawing A shows the chocks (letters A to F) slightly higher than the deck planking and the mast wedges (G) slightly higher than the chocks and octagonal in shape:

Drawing B has the same arrangement as A, except for the circular shaped mast wedges: 

Drawing C  is similar to A, but includes the carlings (H and I) on each side among the components above the deck planking:

Drawing D is similar to C, except for the circular shaped mast wedges: 

I apologize in advance for the crude, ill-proportioned nature of my drawings, I think my 2 year old makes better shapes than me

May I know if which of these 4 drawings is the most appropriate for Pegasus?

Personally, I am leaning towards B since most of the scratchbuilt Swan Class ships I've seen show the carlings H and I to be lower/below the deck planking and both TFFM and Goodwin's  "Construction and Fitting..." book state that the octagonal shaped opening becomes rounded upon opening out or finishing of the mast partner. However, I am curious as to why the NMM plan shows an octagonal shaped opening for the mast wedge. Is this the finished shape of the mast wedge or did the plan intend to show how it looked like prior to opening out/finishing, hence the octagonal shape? 

Thanks in advance for the help guys.

She's looking good, JP, the run of the planks is very nicely done

Hello Popeye,

Nice to see the beautiful sisters back on line, they look great my friend, excellent work as always

I'm pleased to see your Creole Queen log restored to her former glory, Wim, she's looking great, I'm looking forward to more updates

Hello Augie, Arthur, Peter and Wim,

Thanks for dropping  by  as well as the kind words, guys, I appreciate it

Very nice work, DiKri, she looks beautiful, thanks for sharing

Pleased to know they liked the barnacles my friend, and they should, you did an excellent execution of those little crustaceans  

Very neat work on the rigging there Frank, your excellent eye for detail coupled with that excellent Morope have really created a museum piece 

I'm pleased to know you've mastered the "dark art" of edge bending, JP Spiling from sheet stock is indeed the best option, but given the narrow planks provided in kits, edge bending will do nicely........ and for a cheapskate like me, it's a great way of reducing timber wastage

Thanks for the updates, Anja, Half Moon is coming along very nicely, planking looks great. Thanks too for sharing those reference pictures

Hello David,

I'm pleased to see your Niagara log up and running again, excellent work there, looking forward to more updates

Hello Rosemarie,

Just catching up with your Schwarzer Rabe log, excellent work there, everything is clean and neat. I have always wanted to try out card models and will watch your log to learn more about these fantastic kits  

Nice to see your updates on the Masts and Bowsprit, restored once more, Frank, excellent work as always

Thanks, Ray, I have book-marked your wonderful build as a major reference way back in the old forum, and continue to do so in this present one, your techniques and tips have always helped me, thanks for restoring this excellent practicum 

Very nice work, Peter, I especially like your scratchbuilt oven, very creative

Excellent work on the boats, Ray, the added stowage and other details really spruce them up. Top-notch rigging there, mate, thanks too for sharing your rope-coil making techniques

Hello Jarek,

I've always been interested in building one of these beautiful card models, you're doing and excellent job on your ship, very nice and clean work

Hi Aldo,

 

Glad you've got your log back up and running.  Your planking work came out great...foul words and patience pay off in the end!  Thanks for your comment on my build.  Keep up the good work.

 

Patrick

Thanks Patrick, I just hope the foul words don't become a habit Thanks for dropping by as well as your kind comments, I appreciate it

One word Aldo - NICE!

Thanks for the kind word, Grant, there's still a lot of room for improvement with regards to the shades, run and shape of the planks, I hope to resolve some of these issues on my MK II (HMS Fly)

Nice job on the planking Aldo, looking good 

 

B.E.

Thanks B.E. I'm inspired by your excellent modifications on your ship, hope you won't mind if I borrow a few of your techniques/modifications

Wow Aldo!

Neat planking!

Redoing all that was worth it in the end.

I would never have the patience to do the planking a second (third) time... 

 

Bummer!

Hello there, Bummer, my friend, thanks for the good word, I wouldn't have needed to do a "third" planking if I weren't such a hard headed gruff and used PVA from the start, as advised by other builders, this is something I plan to do for my MKII (HMS Fly). You made a good choice of planing to use PVA on Amphion, you won't regret it, mate

Very nice work on the rails, Sjors, they look great and that HD Camera really brings out some very nice details, I've got to invest in one of those