Thanks to Ccoyle, Ron, and Louie de fly for taking the time and responding to my msg. I'm not really thinking I would actually find this particular ship, but have to ask. Will try and find a similar designed ship. I'll look at the Mayflower designs and see how they work for me. There was not a really good picture of the Griffin but at least I get an idea for size. Again, thanks for responding. I have just started looking and also since this is my first ship model need to keep somewhat simple in building. Take care. Tom.