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J Snyder
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I thought I would show how I made it easier to slid the planks in and out when fitting them. I put some cutoffs as spacers under the rubber bands. I us clamps to hold the rubber band on the molds. After the plank is in position I move or remove the spacers. You can see the dowels I put through the molds thinking I would us them but my rubber bands were the wrong size.
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Dream of building full size to reality of building models
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Thanks for all the welcome. I worked for a small company Anderson Logging. We did work for Georgia-Pacific who owned the mill in Fort Bragg. They owned a lot of land also and logged federal land. I will read your log carefully! My idea is to build it sectioned from bow to stern at the rear side of the deck hatch to show the heavy construction, engine, and cabin interiors. I my never get to that big project but that is the goal. -
I would like to introduce myself. In 1976 I was a student at a local boat building school near Fort Bragg, CA. at Abalobadiah Creek. There were four student. Two worked on a 24ft. power launch. Another student and I worked on a William Atkin 25ft. sailboat called the Gary Thomas. I was able to stay on it till we sent it to southern Cal to be sold 14 months later. I would have loved after taking that boat building class to get into the boat building field but realizing I'm very slow and was a perfectionist. I knew I couldn't make money at it so I had to do something different and after commercial fishing with my dad for a while I decide to go into logging for a living. After all these years my plan is to make a series of models of the Gary Thomas starting with a POB and ending with a faithful model reproduction of the one I helped build. After the Gary Thomas builds I would like to work on a longitudinal Cutaway of the Lumber Schooner Wapama. A lot of plans but I have to start somewhere so I am starting on the Norwegian Sailing Pram.
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I'm actually using an SLR with a 17-50 zoom! Just need a little "focus" on my part.
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I am chasing the problem up the sides that the planks need slightly more curve and the bevels on the transoms need to be steeper. The bevels on the transoms being off don't bother me but the planks not having enough curve is a concern. In the second photo you can plainly see that the port plank (right side) is not as far over the garboard as it should be. And at the bow I had to ease both planks off to get the rest of the plank to lay properly. I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression, I am thoroughly enjoying this build and like the problem solving. I just got the sheer strakes of the bucket and they are drying so they are next.
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Sorry about the blurry pictures. I am getting reacquainted with my camera. I had the same problem that many, the garboard planks were not curved enough. I first checked the transom bevels and cut them to fit better (the marked bevel line was to shallow) and I put in a slight bit more twist at the stern. This helped but I finally had to increase the curve of the plank by sanding 1/32nd out of the center tapering to nothing at the ends where the small "gains" are. This is where my use of the bucket could be a problem (maybe). I noticed that the port side plank was not fitting as well I sanded a little more of a curve (maybe 3/64ths) but still not fitting. I checked the mold frames, transoms nothing was asymmetrical. I did find that the port side garboard plank had a hard spot in it like an area near a knot that bent differently. So the problem is ether using the bucket or the hard spot or both. You can see in the last picture that the port garboard (right side of picture) is not where it should be right at the stern.
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Enough of my rambling. Here are some pics For the transom supports I had to add paper shims in all areas to keep things from flopping around. At the stern I glued two scraps to stabilize the transom, this is not a good idea as the building board is not stiff enough if you use rubber bands. I had thought about mounting the board to a piece of 3/4 mdf but I didn't (sigh). The first issue I had was determining what were the transom knees they are not marked and there are nine possible knee like items on the laser cut sheet. This is the first thing the plans call for and is not a good way to start! One hour of head scratching and after removing a few knees and checking the angles I had them glued on. I put the bottom planks in some hot water then pre bent them over a large plastic bucket (more later) with a scrap of plastic laminate (Formica) over them for a few hours. After drying them the curve was nearly perfect but the beveling of the stern transom was to shallow so I cut beyond the marked lines in order to get the keel knee to set on the keel nicely. The stern transom must be checked for square as the first three planks are being glued as it still moved some.
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I lived on (next to) the Noyo river 1.5 mi from the mouth for a few years growing up. the school at Abalobadiah Creek was just Dean Stephens home. We built the launch under a lean to attached to his barn and the sloop in the barn. The other students dug for a new outhouse and had the launch backbone already setup. I'm sorry I missed the work on the launch but happy I missed the outhouse work. We also helped turn butter and a few other household things. For the Sloop we used Balau for the backbone very hard dark brown and heavy. Difficult to work do to the interlocking grain, The adze and planes had to be used across the grain. The ribs were steam bent white oak and Port Orford Cedar was used for the planking.
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Yes, every journey begins with a single step. I would have loved after taking that boat building class to get into the boat building field but realizing I'm very slow and I'm a perfectionist. I knew I couldn't make money at it so I had to do something different and after commercial fishing with my dad for a while I decide to go into logging for a living. I am enjoying working on the pram. Hopefully I can knock it out pretty fast and move on to either the lobster boat model or start on my scratch build.
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I would like to introduce myself. In 1976 I was a student at a local boat building school near Fort Bragg, CA. at Abalobadiah Creek. There were four student. Two worked on a 24ft. power launch. Another student and I worked on a William Atkin 25ft. sailboat called the Gary Thomas. I was able to stay on it till we sent it to southern Cal to be sold 14 months later. After all these years my plan is to make a series of models of the Gary Thomas starting with a POB and ending with a faithful model reproduction of the one I helped build. After the Gary Thomas builds I would like to work on a longitudinal Cutaway of the Lumber Schooner Wapama. A lot of plans but I have to start somewhere so I am starting on the Norwegian Sailing Pram. I read over quite a few build logs to get an idea of the potential problems and I have found some already. I will post a few pictures tomorrow on my progress.
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