Seren Posted December 15, 2017 #1 Posted December 15, 2017 I am building a Billings Victory. There does not seem to be any reference to the wales in the instructions and no extra material to detail them. I would like to include them in my build. I have the John McKay Victory book which shows the wales, but. My question is, are there any simplified drawings of side elevation showing the positions? (Google searches including wales are not helpful!)
davyboy Posted December 16, 2017 #2 Posted December 16, 2017 Hi Seren,can't help you with drawings but if you google HMS Victory the second item is 100's of photographs of her. You should be able to get a good idea of where the wale positions are from them. Surprised there's no info on the plan,nor any material provided for them. Hope this may be of some help to you. Dave
John Garnish Posted December 17, 2017 #3 Posted December 17, 2017 Siren You are right in wanting to include the wales, because they are essential to the appearance of the model. I attach a photo of the side elevation from Alan McGowan's book. The photo is very distorted because of the curvature of the pages, but the positions of the wales is still pretty clear. I have tinted them to help. Note that, if you want to be really accurate, the lower wale uses anchor stock planking. John John Past Builds: Diorama, Washington & Philadelphia - 1776. 1:144 scale scratch build Sir Edward Hawke - Schooner, 1776. 1:72 scale scratch build from H Hahn plans Matthew - 1497. 1:25 scale scratch build from Colin Mudie plans Mediterranean Cog - 1343. 1:40 scale scratch build from Xavier Pastor plans Nonsuch - 1650. 1:32 scale Aeropiccola kit Caustic - gunboat, 1776 . 1:36 scale scratch build Member of the Nautical Research Guild
John Garnish Posted December 17, 2017 #4 Posted December 17, 2017 Seren, Another (distorted) photo from McGowan's book. Note that there is another wale supporting the channels. John Past Builds: Diorama, Washington & Philadelphia - 1776. 1:144 scale scratch build Sir Edward Hawke - Schooner, 1776. 1:72 scale scratch build from H Hahn plans Matthew - 1497. 1:25 scale scratch build from Colin Mudie plans Mediterranean Cog - 1343. 1:40 scale scratch build from Xavier Pastor plans Nonsuch - 1650. 1:32 scale Aeropiccola kit Caustic - gunboat, 1776 . 1:36 scale scratch build Member of the Nautical Research Guild
stupot Posted Sunday at 01:18 PM #6 Posted Sunday at 01:18 PM On 12/17/2017 at 3:28 PM, John Garnish said: Siren You are right in wanting to include the wales, because they are essential to the appearance of the model. I attach a photo of the side elevation from Alan McGowan's book. The photo is very distorted because of the curvature of the pages, but the positions of the wales is still pretty clear. I have tinted them to help. Note that, if you want to be really accurate, the lower wale uses anchor stock planking. John I rejected Billings model for that reason. I'm now building Jotika's model & am doing the lower (main) wale in anchor stock, which I'm producing on my MF70 mill.
Fritzlindsay Posted Sunday at 04:19 PM #7 Posted Sunday at 04:19 PM The drawings in Longridge's The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships shows them. The Longridge fold out between pages 36 and 37 are a very close match to the plan ZAZ0121 at RMG that is stated to have been made after 1705 even though it supposed to be Victory 1765. Fritz https://collections.rmg.co.uk/media/558/554/j1850.jpg
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