HMS Victory wales (position)

[Seren]

I am building a Billings Victory.

There does not seem to be any reference to the wales in the instructions and no extra material to detail them.

I would like to include them in my build. I have the John McKay Victory book which shows the wales, but.

 

My question is,

are there any simplified drawings of side elevation showing the positions?

(Google searches including wales are not helpful!)

[davyboy]

Hi Seren,can't help you with drawings but if you google HMS Victory the second item is 100's of photographs of her. You should be able to get a good idea of where the wale positions are from them. Surprised there's no info on the plan,nor any material provided for them.  Hope this may be of some help to you.

 

Dave 

[John Garnish]

Siren

You are right in wanting to include the wales, because they are essential to the appearance of the model.

I attach a photo of the side elevation from Alan McGowan's book.  The photo is very distorted because of the curvature of the pages, but the positions of the wales is still pretty clear.  I have tinted them to help.

Note that, if you want to be really accurate, the lower wale uses anchor stock planking.

John

[John Garnish]

Seren,

Another (distorted) photo from McGowan's book.  Note that there is another wale supporting the channels.

[Seren]

Thanks.

[stupot]

On 12/17/2017 at 3:28 PM, John Garnish said:

Siren

You are right in wanting to include the wales, because they are essential to the appearance of the model.

I attach a photo of the side elevation from Alan McGowan's book.  The photo is very distorted because of the curvature of the pages, but the positions of the wales is still pretty clear.  I have tinted them to help.

Note that, if you want to be really accurate, the lower wale uses anchor stock planking.

John

I rejected Billings model for that reason. I'm now building Jotika's  model & am doing the lower (main) wale in anchor stock, which I'm producing on my MF70 mill.

[stupot]

The middle wale is also 'anchor stock'. It's taken me 3 attempts to get the positioning of the wales correct. Jotika plans are inaccurate, so I'm now going by Magowan & Makay.

[acaron41120]

Siren I feel your pain. I'm building Billing Boats Golden Hind. The plans show three Wales. From everything I have read about the wale location is that the Wales is located "at the widest part of the ships hull." This doesn't seem that it will work well in that if followed, the bottom wale would be BELOW the waterline. So I'm going to go with the middle wale of the three which is a little above the center of the hull. The only other question is; because Billings doesn't double plank their hulls, do I double the thickness of the Wales? I've a few wider plants that I can use.

[Lieste]

Recall that the wale is thickstuff, and as such increases the maximum beam. Even if the wale is very slightly above the widest part of the frame. It is also possible the frame has the balance slightly off.