Cutty Sark 1869 by Dognut - Constructo - Scale 1:115 - First build

[SpencerC]

How awesome would it be If in the instructions it showed a picture of the CS nose first in a small bowl of water and its like "now soak the bow in about 4 inches of water until the glue loosens.."

 

Haha. But hey what kinda glue did u use? It may be better to use the specific glues debonder.. Like for CA it's isopropyl alcohol.

[NenadM]

Dognut

 

I hope you did not drown Her ...

 

If you did, specialy for you something from "Song Of Ice And Fire" ( R.R.Martin)

 

The Ironborn do not fear dying at sea or drowning; indeed it is their saying that "What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger. In a ritual of Ironborn, people are drowned in sea water (their holy water) and then brought back to life harder and stronger

[Dognut]

Hi Gents;

Spence - I think the "instructions" you refer to are the ones we have to buy seperately: "Shipbuilding for dummies" author A.N. Idiot, and the multi-volume "What Not to do on your build". Only problem with the last one is the section on how to resolve the problems - my copy is suspiciously blank....

 

I used white wood glue, commonly available down here - made by Henkel. The bit that worried me was their slogan on the bottle "Bonds stronger than wood". Was making enquiries about the Isopropyl-Alchohol, and was just getting some odd looks. Then a carpenter suggested the "water-dunk" method, which worked very well. I've also used this (once) on my cabinet build, when i discovered that one of my doors had been glued wrong way around, so the rabbetts didn't line up. Worked very well!

 

After the water soak - Nenad, it would appear that I didn't drown her, although she is sitting having a good sulk there on the bench..

Glue loosened nicely, and I was able to scrape out all the resulting "goo". The bow planks also popped open, so I may have access in there to repair the damage I did with the first attempt to correct this (some time back, using the Dremel)

 

Apologies for the focus - I'm surprised I was even able to get this.

 

[NenadM]

So, after diveing follow digging? I supose you have clear idea what to do. Will you explain ?

[Dognut]

Hi again,

 

Lawrence - no problem with your photo (thanks!!), it's related to the topic anyway. I also appreciate the input.

 

You've touched on a problem which Nenad also mentioned - aligning the planks with the keel and stem pieces.

 

The more I look into this, the more I'm thinking that the kit has it 'wrong way around'. Surely it would have been easier (and technically more correct) to fit the stem, false keel and stern post FIRST, and then lay on the planking. My way of thinking is that this would give you something to align the planks to. The instructions cover their butt with a simple sentence - "fit the hull planks using glue and pins, ensuring that the plank ends align with the pieces to be added later"

 

Actually, the more I re-read this, the more I realise that this is not the way to do it. Surely when the CS was built, the keel, stern, etc was laid first, and then the hull was planked? Wasn't around then, but I've got a sneaking feeling that it was done that way (more or less?)

 

So - the problem grows. I'm starting to look at how the keel and stem will fit with what I've already done, and see if I can make that work. If not, some more dunking may be called for to loosen the planks further.

 

Fun in my future...

 

On a happier note - I came across this photo the other day, but unfortunately before I could get more details, our internet link froze up. At least I got some "eye candy" for the CS Fleet.  Ooops - no go, file too big. I'll get our wizards here to have a go at it. In the meantime, here's another.

 

[NenadM]

Dognut

 

As I see on other topics, even the keel is made of many more parts, building whole keel is first move everywhere, even in fantastic "full hull planking" as it is called here ( fantastic masters works when you do not have ribs in kit, and when you pick up even rib from curvatures on drawing, and every rib is made of many pieces, and keel is made of many pieces too)

 

In my plans, whole keel is made of one part of plywood (except stern post, but stern post is first to glue on place before positioning ribs). And there was some kind of laying strip on bow which I glued and removed later as redundant by my way of planking. For other purposes, I carefully draw a line where edge of planking is on the bow and down on keel. On the stern there is stern post as edge

 

I do not envy you in a situation where you found it, and I'm really interested in how you're going to get over the same

 

Keep on and good luck with it

 

Waiting for more pics

 

Nenad

Edited December 6, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Dognut !

 

You are sleeping again ?

 

Everything OK ?

 

In my Topic our great friend (Lou) put some very interesting and very useful links

 

See you soon

 

Nenad

Edited December 5, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

I hope you resolve your internet problems ?

[NenadM]

???

[NenadM]

[NenadM]

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