paul ron Posted February 27 #1 Posted February 27 im working at 1/8" = 1' flying fish. 1" = 0.0104" what is the diameter of a jack stay on clippers; and what would the scale equivalent wire gage be on my model? Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
rwiederrich Posted February 27 #2 Posted February 27 12 minutes ago, paul ron said: im working at 1/8" = 1' flying fish. 1" = 0.0104" what is the diameter of a jack stay on clippers; and what would the scale equivalent wire gage be on my model? Well that depends on the diameter of each yard. I tend to use my eye...since wire guage can be tricky..dependant upon country and manufacture origin. Here is a pic of a jackstay on a yard from a downeaster...windjammer. A grandson of its predecessor the clipper. Rob Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
paul ron Posted February 27 Author #3 Posted February 27 (edited) so would you think about 1" - 1.5" is a fair estimate? Edited February 27 by paul ron mtaylor, Keith Black and wefalck 3 Quote
rwiederrich Posted February 28 #4 Posted February 28 4 hours ago, paul ron said: so would you think about 1" - 1.5" is a fair estimate? Are you asking about the stay eye bold spread? The distance from one eye bolt to the next……in your scale? Rob mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
paul ron Posted February 28 Author #5 Posted February 28 6 hours ago, paul ron said: what is the diameter of a jack stay on clippers... the pipe diameter 6 hours ago, paul ron said: Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
Solution gak1965 Posted February 29 Solution #6 Posted February 29 FWIW, I used 24 gauge annealed steel wire for the jackstays on my 1:96 Flying Fish, except on the skysails where I dropped to 34 gauge. Doesn't mean it's right or to scale, but it seemed to look okay and worked tolerably well with the 0.75 x 6mm eyebolts I used for the jackstay eyebolts. Regards, George paul ron and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Builds: Bluejacket USS Kearsarge, RRS Discovery 1:72 scratch Completed Builds: Model Shipways 1:96 Flying Fish | Model Shipways 1:64 US Brig Niagara | Model Shipways 1:64 Pride of Baltimore II (modified) | Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack | Heller 1:150 Passat | Revell 1:96 USS Constitution
paul ron Posted February 29 Author #7 Posted February 29 (edited) yes the 24 is optically pleasing. i was tinkering with different gages but then the ocd kicked in to find what would real ones measure. thanks. gak1965... i cruised your build log for the ff... nice job! Edited February 29 by paul ron mtaylor 1 Quote
wefalck Posted March 3 #8 Posted March 3 I just checked the data given by MIDDENDORF, F.L. (1903): Bemastung und Takelung der Schiffe.- 401 p., Kassel (reprint 1977 by Horst Hamecher). which, albeit in German, is probably the most detailed textbook with relevance to the late 19th century. He designed and rigged inter alia the five-masted ship PREUSSEN. On page 313 there is table for jack-stays and their fittings. The diameter of the jack-stay is proportional to the length of the yard. For a 10 m yard the diameter should be 15 mm and its centre above the yard 25 mm. For a 30 m yard the diameter should be 25 mm and the centre above the yard 36 mm. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux
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