HMS Triton by James Flynn - POB - Beginning My learning of the construction of ships of the line

[James Flynn]

Origenaley, I started wanting to build a monster 1st rate ship of the line the 1812 Montebello. However, after much research and advice from others on this forum learned it was a wiser decision to change my plans and that building a 1st rate would be too much to try and tackle for my skill level. Others directed me to this H.M.S Triton and though I really wanted to build a multi gun deck ship like a 3rd rate I decided to take you all's advice and start small and learn what I could. After making that decision I was set on building a POF so I could learn as much as posable but have reconsidered that as well. so, know I am starting an HMS Triton POB build. Thought this way I can learn the basic's and when I'm ready to tackle the 3rd rate then I will build that ship in POF. 

So that's enough on that. let's get things started. First, I finally got everything I need to start printed but I'm looking at the center bord or keel peace and it looks like the bulkhead slots are 3/8's in. thick is that correct? Just seems a little thick in my thinking. Also, should the center board or keel also be 3/8's in. thick as well? Also, Luan is 1/4'' thick I'm thinking on gluing two pieces together and then sanding or planning it down to get that 3/8's thickness and just thought I would see what you all thought about that decision? 

[AnobiumPunctatum]

3/8''  = 9,5mm I think this is really thick for the bulkheads and the centerboards. 1/4'' = 6,35mm is looking ok for a model in 1/48 or 1/64. If you choose a smaller scale you can make the bulkheads thinner.

In which scale do yoou plan to build her?

I wisch you a lot of fun on your journey.

[James Flynn]

18 hours ago, AnobiumPunctatum said:

3/8''  = 9,5mm I think this is really thick for the bulkheads and the centerboards. 1/4'' = 6,35mm is looking ok for a model in 1/48 or 1/64. If you choose a smaller scale you can make the bulkheads thinner.

In which scale do yoou plan to build her?

I wisch you a lot of fun on your journey.

The plans printed in 1/48 scale I was thinking 1/4'' was the more acerate choice but the plans print everything at 3/8'' and everything I have been reading from others builds its looking like 3/8s is correct, but I still feel better about the 1/4'' thickness however I would hate to start get everything built up at 1/4'' and then find the flaw and be forced to half to start over. to do everything in 1/4 I would half to adjust all the plans and I'm thinking they have spent allot of time getting everything just the way it should and looking it all over they have done a great job putting these plans together. Still, I'm torn.     

[AnobiumPunctatum]

1/48 is a real nice scale. If you have the space at home for the finished model I would go with this scale.The original drawings in the RMG are in this scale.

 

I am a bit surprised. As far as I know the PDF's of the drawings are in 1/48 prepared. You should also have access to the POF drawings. They are a really good add on for a POB build and in 1/48.

If you need to scale a PDF you can simply change the scale by printing. The cross section was many years ago my first wooden try.

Edited November 17 by AnobiumPunctatum

[James Flynn]

57 minutes ago, AnobiumPunctatum said:

1/48 is a real nice scale. If you have the space at home for the finished model I would go with this scale.The original drawings in the RMG are in this scale.

 

I am a bit surprised. As far as I know the PDF's of the drawings are in 1/48 prepared. You should also have access to the POF drawings. They are a really good add on for a POB build and in 1/48.

If you need to scale a PDF you can simply change the scale by printing. The cross section was many years ago my first wooden try.

Yes, I did get the POF downloads as well and looking at them after both halves of the double frame are joined together the frame is still 3/8'' thick I'm wondering if I build in 1/4'' and move all the forward bulkheads from the center bulkhead to the forward edge line drown on the plans of the center board and the aft bulkheads to the back edge line drown on the plans would the build come out correct. I like the 1/48 scale and reducing the bulkheads in print would drop the scale down which I would rather not do.         

[AnobiumPunctatum]

Now I understand your problem. The double frames are only for a POF build. You need the files in folder "POB drawings". The frames are not visible and much more simplificated.

[James Flynn]

On 11/17/2024 at 3:50 AM, AnobiumPunctatum said:

Now I understand your problem. The double frames are only for a POF build. You need the files in folder "POB drawings". The frames are not visible and much more simplificated.

This is one frame from the POB set and one frame from the POF set of plans after printing 

[James Flynn]

The center board (Keel) is 5/16 and came out 34'' long so that looks right 

[AnobiumPunctatum]

If you like to use thinner bulkheads you have to rework the cutout in the centerboard. Forwards from middle bulkhead (0) you have to change the fore edge of the cutout and backwards the after edge.

Then everything should work again. What is the thickness of the centerboard? 

[James Flynn]

21 hours ago, AnobiumPunctatum said:

If you like to use thinner bulkheads you have to rework the cutout in the centerboard. Forwards from middle bulkhead (0) you have to change the fore edge of the cutout and backwards the after edge.

Then everything should work again. What is the thickness of the centerboard? 

Center board is  5/16ths

 

[James Flynn]

 

21 hours ago, AnobiumPunctatum said:

If you like to use thinner bulkheads you have to rework the cutout in the centerboard. Forwards from middle bulkhead (0) you have to change the fore edge of the cutout and backwards the after edge.

Then everything should work again. What is the thickness of the centerboard? 

What I'm really worried about is the bulkhead size did my print come out correct or is something bad wrong 

[AnobiumPunctatum]

If you print the parts of the model check on your program that the scale of the printout is 100% and not fitted to sid or something similiar. You can check the scale of each print out with the ruler shown on every PDF. It is given the length  of 10 feet in the scale 1/48. In metric scale it's exact 63.5mm. Don't worry about your thoughts. It's the beginning of a really long journey. For me the MSW project was also the start in scratch building.

If you have not much experience I can recommend the cross section as a really  good entry point. It hase the same scale as the full hull build but is much less complicated.