Spanish Galleon Rope Sizes

[Bill Jackson]

Guys & Ladies, where can I find info on the rope sizes used on standing and running rigging on SPANISH galleons betweem 1500-1800?

[Waldemar]

 

Take a look here (entry #3):

 

 

 

[Bill Jackson]

18 hours ago, Waldemar said:

 

Take a look here (entry #3):

 

 

Kevin

Thank you very much. I have downloaded the pdf and will print out today. 

Kevin

Muchas gracias. Ya descargué el PDF y lo imprimiré hoy.

Bill

 

[Bill Jackson]

I have download the pdf for the book you recommended on the rigging of the Santìsima Trinidad. My problem is I can not read the table on page 69 because the text are way too small. I am using Google translator but the text on the table is too small, and if I enlarge it, it becomes fuzzy.

Any ideas?

Bill

Edited August 4 by Bill Jackson
Typos

[Waldemar]

 

 

[Bill Jackson]

Ok how did you do that? Can you send me the complete chart?

[Waldemar]

 

9 minutes ago, Bill Jackson said:

Ok how did you do that?

 

Using the link provided, I accessed the library website, found the desired page, and downloaded it.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Bill Jackson said:

Can you send me the complete chart?

 

This is rather pointless, as you can fortunately do all of this yourself, already without any additional help. Good luck.

 

 

[Bill Jackson]

"Link provided". I do not see a link. I am sorry for my ignorance but I guess after 5 years at building kits, it seems I still have much to learn.

Thank you for your patience and please point to the discussed link.

[Waldemar]

 

I see. Perhaps you have a friend who could be able to download these pages for you. It's only a few hours' effort. Alternatively, you can buy a hard-copy reprint, where the texts, including the tables, are already transcribed. No need to download and print anything. 

 

[Bill Jackson]

I just spent 1 hour trying to figure out how to get the chart downloaded clear and I have failed. 

PLEASE HELP

[kirill4]

Good day Bill,

As seems to me ,there is not so big problem with it, how to find necessary ropes  sizes for your galleon...I could recommend a few ways: 

00. Book by RC Anderson where He gives all necessary  XVI - XVII centuries rigging info

01. as far as I remember, on this forum, a few years ago I ve found very nice and handy excell tables made by one of ours colegues, tables which automaticaly calculated all necessary standing and rigging sizes of each rope You be need to rigg your galleon( and any other models as well) model... depends on period and rigging types and style

02. famous Mondfeld's book with nice tables regarding rigging and mast and spars sizes

03. Hoeckel 's book which looks like short version of RCAnderson book but containts all necessary data as well...

By my small experience , these sources could/ will provide You all necessary info( in general at least) for rigging your galleon model in the best simplified but accurate way...

Period Ship Scale Tables_2305250745__46.xlsx

Rigging - size of rope and blocks - Final.xls Period Ship Scale Tables.xls

Edited August 5 by kirill4

[Bill Jackson]

 Kirll4,

I want to 1st thank you for your time and your recognition of my situation. Thank you.

I have all the books you recommended, but most of the 40 books that I have focus on Engliah galleons and ships. Most books have scant references to Spanish galleons wven Anderson's books. I will use the Excel files that you attached immediately. My goal is to find data specific to Spanish galleons and to place that data on a white board for easy reference. I currently have white boards for Mast and Yard sizes (Rules for Spanish Galleon 1618, Fernandez M.) and calculating plank sizes (Excel spreadsheet).

 

Bill Jackson

Again thank you for your kindness.

Bill Jackson

[kirill4]

 

Good day Bill,

Oh, I see now... I m afraid  that excel tables which I posted operates just common data based on European shipbuilding tradition  depend on rigging period but don't give You specific details belong to spanish galleon exactly... 

info You are looking for on the rope sizes used on standing and running rigging on SPANISH galleons between 1500-1800 , hm, it is quite a huge period when rules has been changed significantly ... I could guess You need to dig through the Spanish-speaking forums to find more specific details regarding your question. Maybe there is sense to narrowing the field of your research / one ship model of which You want to build?

ps

above Waldemar gave many useful links...

pps

It seems to me that in order to competently and without excessive fanaticism equip an amateur model of a ship with rigging in accordance with the selected historical period, the information provided in the books and tables of RC Anderson, Mondfeld, and several other well-known authorities is quite sufficient, given that the above-mentioned excel tables were compiled taking into account the works of these authors... The Spanish school of shipbuilding of the 17th, 18th, 19th centuries, I believe, kept pace with the rest of the European continental schools and it is unlikely that there were any cardinal differences in the armament of ships with rigging that could be shown on the model, especially with regard to the sizes of running and standing rigging.... 

Edited August 7 by kirill4

[Bill Jackson]

Thanks you guys. You have set me on the right track. I have talked to Louue da Fly some time ago but I had forgotten. 

Memory is the 2nd thing to go..

Thanks again