Dauphin Royal 1752 - 1:48 - French 3-deck 110-gun ship

[igorcap]

Craftsmen from Odessa are finishing the Model of the French 3-deck 110-gun ship Dauphin Royal (1752). The model is being built based on my reconstruction.

Edited Saturday at 07:08 PM by ccoyle
corrected log title

[dvm27]

Just curious - is this model commissioned for a private individual or a museum? You have a very talented team of craftsmen.

[G. Delacroix]

Hello,

I don't want to be mean or unpleasant, but after examining this model, while we can congratulate the model maker(s) who created it, the same cannot be said for the reconstruction of the plan itself. 
I dont know the origin of the plan or the sources used by Igor, but this reconstruction is full of design anomalies. I will not go into detail about all the errors concerning the ship's architecture and equipment, as the list would be embarrassingly long.
However, the design effort should be commended because it requires a lot of work but also, and this is very important for the credibility of the model, a lot of knowledge and references that are clearly not present.
As we must pay tribute to the work of these model makers, we should call this model "Variation on Le Dauphin Royal".

GD

[igorcap]

3 hours ago, dvm27 said:

Просто интересно — эта модель была заказана частным лицом или музеем? У вас очень талантливая команда мастеров.

This is a private order. My comment about the museum is a bit lower.

[igorcap]

1 hour ago, G. Delacroix said:

Hello,

I don't want to be mean or unpleasant, but after examining this model, while we can congratulate the model maker(s) who created it, the same cannot be said for the reconstruction of the plan itself. 
I dont know the origin of the plan or the sources used by Igor, but this reconstruction is full of design anomalies. I will not go into detail about all the errors concerning the ship's architecture and equipment, as the list would be embarrassingly long.
However, the design effort should be commended because it requires a lot of work but also, and this is very important for the credibility of the model, a lot of knowledge and references that are clearly not present.
As we must pay tribute to the work of these model makers, we should call this model "Variation on Le Dauphin Royal".

GD

Gerard, thank you for your comment. I am very glad that this work did not leave you indifferent.
You know very well that such a ship did not really exist, therefore there are no historically accurate drawings. But the model, which is in the Rochefort Museum, impresses primarily with its decorative design. Many modelers would like to repeat this model, but there were no drawings that would allow this model to be built. The first attempt to make ship model drawings was made by the late Alexander Gerashchenko from Odessa. The drawings are not bad, but there were many technical inconsistencies. Two years ago I received an order to create a 3D model of the ship based on Gerashchenko's drawings and a photo of the model from the museum.
It is clear that this reconstruction does not pretend to be historical for obvious reasons. Models of this kind decorate private collections, hotel lobbies, yacht clubs, etc.
A second model is currently being built. There are fair comments from modelers on the correction of some points, I agree with them, I will correct. If you find time to describe the problems and discrepancies, I will be very grateful to you.

[G. Delacroix]

Hello, 

Admittedly, this ship never existed, but the model was built according to the customs in use in France at that time. It is therefore not an imaginary ship, but rather a model consistent with the ships of the mid-18th century that we know so well.

It would be too time-consuming to draw up a list of all the anomalies in this model. I will send you some photos of the Dauphin-Royal so you can judge for yourself the many modifications that need to be made to your 3D model.

Unfortunately, it is too late for the “wooden” model.

What I can tell you is to forget about the overly large, decorated railings and the ball racks along the gratings, as these features were unknown in France at that time.
However, I would like to point out a major problem that immediately discredits this model: the shape of the hull, which is not typical of French design, particularly the excessive angle of the sternpost. Another important point is to review the bow and the deck layout. Feel free to ask me any questions, as some of the equipment has disappeared from this model, but their locations are still visible.

Send me your email address in a PM so I can send you the photos via WeTransfer.
 

Edited 10 hours ago by G. Delacroix