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How do you build this. I am building the Pandora using AOTS book, and this subject is not mentioned at all. just some smal images.The kits I have done so far, and the scratch as well, has been easy as they was suported by plans/drawings. But in this case I am lost. Wat is the "link" made of, is it a metal plate or chain,wire or rope. The upper suport seems to be some "knee" made of wood.post-7235-0-33317400-1385047441.jpg

 

Is there a way to glue this to the hull and then it can be trusted when rigging is to be done.

 

"sorry for my bad english"

if it's too good to be true, it probably is.

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The links below the deadeyes are made of metal rod and straps. It appears the deadeyes are stroped with metal rods that then attach to the metal straps which are bolted or nailed to the hull though the bottom holes.  I agree the upper supports or gussets are additional wood supports. Note, the drawing shows the channel angled down toward the water to show depth and width of the plank, but in actual installation, it should be horizontal or only seen on edge in that side view. You could probably estimate the width of the channel, or it may appear in another view where you can measure it.

 

Ken

 

P.S. The 2 links between the deadeye and the 2-hole strap are the same, the one above is just rotated like a chain link, so is seen on edge.

 

Check out the link below, very similar chainplates to yours.

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/487-chain-plates/

Edited by BareHook

Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash

Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat

 

Completed Build:  MS AVS

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The image I posted is not from my ship, it is one that I found on the net. It was the only way to show what i was talking about.

 

I understand now, and are very thankful for the info. 

if it's too good to be true, it probably is.

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Bjoern,

You cant go to far wrong with Daffi methods, I have long admired his work and dedication.

I tried his method and didnt have the solder skills to pull it off his stropping method, this worked better for me: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1724-deadeye-straps/

 

If you are interested this is how melded the two techniques, Post 172 is the start: 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/113-enterprise-by-src-constructo-151/page-12?hl=%20enterprise%20%20src

 

I had similar questions about the channels, this link has more information than I expected to get to my question:

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2514-question-on-channels-and-chain-plates/

 

As far as gluing in the channels many builder here use brass or wood pins with 5 minute epoxy.

Hope some of this helps

Sam

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Current Build Constructo Enterprise

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How do you build this. I am building the Pandora using AOTS book, and this subject is not mentioned at all. just some smal images.The kits I have done so far, and the scratch as well, has been easy as they was suported by plans/drawings. But in this case I am lost. Wat is the "link" made of, is it a metal plate or chain,wire or rope. The upper suport seems to be some "knee" made of wood.attachicon.gifimages.jpg

 

Bjoern, I know that you used the image as an example, but let me also point out that the shrouds that tie in with the deadeyes (per your picture) should line up with the top of the mast. In other words, if you connect a pencil line with all the shrouds they should come close to one point.

So, don't go too closely with the drawing you saw. This is one of many published by Lennarth Petersson, 'Rigging Period Ship Models'.

 

I am afraid that it shows the wrong angles of the shrouds to the right. If you go to the next page, it might be clearer.

Pardon my personal scribbles.

 

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The plank you are referring to is called a channel. It is the board that is on the outside of the ship to which all of these 'deadeyes' and shrouds are tied to. Again refer to more ship details here or other books.

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Jay

 

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