figuerres Posted January 17, 2015 #1 Posted January 17, 2015 where can i find any examples of real workings of rudder contol lines to the ships wheel? Quote Holding at Rigging stage : MS Bluenose 1:64, rigging and finish work Building Hull : MS Fair American 1:48 In the yard: 18th Century Longboat, Model Shipways Kit Done: AL Bounty Jolly Boat
michaelpsutton2 Posted January 19, 2015 #2 Posted January 19, 2015 You might find that many of these had tillers not wheels. Quote Drown you may, but go you must and your reward shall be a man's pay or a hero's grave
figuerres Posted January 19, 2015 Author #3 Posted January 19, 2015 I have been looking and as posted a lot of them had no cabin and a tiller , or had a cabin and ran the rudder post and tiller on top of the cabin. I know that in a larger ship the controls would have run under the cabins and then up to a wheel. the idea that I have seen of having a cabin and running the lines and the rudder inside the cabin seems to be crazy to me. I am thinking of making the cabin taller and picturing a kind of cubby / bench by the windows that allow some workings to be there and then run down under and forward. will have to make a drawing and see if my idea could work at all..... or if the nice looking Fair American models would have never worked as shown. what good is a 3 foot cabin full of ropes and blocks and with the tiller in the middle ?? if you made the cabin say 7 foot tall or 8 foot tall then at the stern you could lose part of the floor space to make a box to hide some of the works and have a decent cabin I think. Quote Holding at Rigging stage : MS Bluenose 1:64, rigging and finish work Building Hull : MS Fair American 1:48 In the yard: 18th Century Longboat, Model Shipways Kit Done: AL Bounty Jolly Boat
russ Posted January 19, 2015 #4 Posted January 19, 2015 The Fair American's cabin most likely had a lowered deck and raised platforms on either side for the guns in the cabin. That is how Clayton Feldman reasoned it in his articles on building his model of the Fair American back in the 1980s.He also showed the rigging for the steering under the cabin roof. Those articles were published collectively in a paper back booklet in 1986. It is titled 18th Century War Brig Fair American, building a plank on frame model, by Clayton Feldman. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
figuerres Posted January 19, 2015 Author #5 Posted January 19, 2015 I would love to get that book but the prices I found on amazon were nuts! Like 500.00usd or more Quote Holding at Rigging stage : MS Bluenose 1:64, rigging and finish work Building Hull : MS Fair American 1:48 In the yard: 18th Century Longboat, Model Shipways Kit Done: AL Bounty Jolly Boat
russ Posted January 19, 2015 #6 Posted January 19, 2015 Ask if your local library has interlibrary loan. Maybe they can get it for you. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
RevWarBrig Posted January 21, 2015 #7 Posted January 21, 2015 I would love to get that book but the prices I found on amazon were nuts! Like 500.00usd or more 18th Century War Brig Fair American, building a plank on frame model, by Clayton Feldman. - one is for sale at a fair price over in scale sailboats of Rc groups. follow this link: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2321176 Quote
bdb Posted October 23, 2022 #8 Posted October 23, 2022 You could get a copy of the articles from the Model Ship Builder CD available on the Nautical Research Guild web site. Building the Fair American, Clayton Feldman, (wheel shown in Part 7, #38: pp 34-46) Canute 1 Quote
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