mtdoramike

Thanks for the encouragement George, I needed that because I'm starting to flounder a bit. It usually happens to me when I get to this stage of the build and I wind up needed a little kick in the seat of the pants to continue on. The Library is really anxious to get the model and would really like to get it before the end of the year and would like to plan a big doings before the Christmas Holidays. I will be gone around the middle of Sept to October when we will take a trip to the USVI to visit family there. So the time restraints are closing in hahahahaha. 

I made a bit more progress.

I spent a few more hours on the Vic today. As you can see all the strings hanging from the stay sails, which the rear ones still ned to be ran to their belaying points. It can get a bit confusing with all those lines laying around, but I found it easier to attach all the lines first then start belaying them off one at a time.
 
 
 
mike 

Thanks for the encouragement George, I needed that because I'm starting to flounder a bit. It usually happens to me when I get to this stage of the build and I wind up needed a little kick in the seat of the pants to continue on. The Library is really anxious to get the model and would really like to get it before the end of the year and would like to plan a big doings before the Christmas Holidays. I will be gone around the middle of Sept to October when we will take a trip to the USVI to visit family there. So the time restraints are closing in hahahahaha. 

That over-all shot of her looks fantastic Mike. You've been doing a splendid job on her.! 

I made a bit more progress.

I made a bit more progress.

I made a bit more progress.

That book is the best out there, I am detailing mine from the images in there. Hard back ha ha

Thanks Thomas, I'll have to check out their line of thread and see what they can come close to. I even checked Hobby Lobby, Walmart sewing section in my area and they have nothing that comes close to the sizes that I need in a cotton blend. I have used Constructo and Mamoli rigging thread as well as Model Shipways and like most of their's.
 
 
mike

Thanks Thomas, I'll have to check out their line of thread and see what they can come close to. I even checked Hobby Lobby, Walmart sewing section in my area and they have nothing that comes close to the sizes that I need in a cotton blend. I have used Constructo and Mamoli rigging thread as well as Model Shipways and like most of their's.
 
 
mike

Mike,
 
I hear you on the AL rigging thread, I'm trying to use all the materials supplied in my kit as well.  But I'm definitely going to replace most of the thread as it's such a key aspect of the build....right in your face so to speak    
 
FYI - I ordered some samples from Syren and I really like the quality. 

Some of these kits leave something to be desired when it comes to many things, but the rigging plans on my own come right out and say to use my own judgement when it comes to belay points, and to drill extra holes and add pins, and dump more than one line on a pin, but to just try and be logical about it.  And in there own words, "It was a judgement call by the Captain, and you're the Captain". 
 
As far as the line goes, kit-supplied line isn't very good anyway, and with all of the great work you've already put into this beautiful ship, I'd get better rope, and keep a record of the changes. 
 
Cheers

Thanks George, I was thinking of doing a little extrapolating when it comes to the belaying locations. I was thinking of adding a belaying pin rack to each side of the stern. But upon checking the Anatomy of the Ship HMS Victory, it only shows the one belaying rack near the Mizzen mast. I'm not apposed to tying off two lines to one pin if it looks good and makes sense, but more than two is where I draw the line per say hahahahaha.
 
mike    

I also received my copy of Anatomy of a ship HMS Victory. I had borrowed a copy of the book (hard bound) from a friend when I first started the build, but had to return it a while back. So I figured I would buy my own copy (soft cover).

I have run across an area that I'm finding problematic or at least to me it is......At the stern portion of the Vic, it only has one belaying pin rail, which is directly behind the mizzen mast. The problem I'm seeing is that the pin rail has at most about 8-10 belaying stations and on the rigging diagram, it shows each belaying point being utilized for any where from two to three rigging lines. I only have one line belayed to each point in the photo and as you can see, it gets quite bulked up with one line muchless two or three lines. Most ships that I have built has multiple belaying pin rails near the Mizzen mast as well as port and starboard sides of the stern section.
 
The AL kit also contains what I call a green rigging thread, to be used for most of the running rigging, I prefer a light tan or cream colored line for the running rigging, but it is what it is. I'm trying to stay as close to the kit supplied items as I can as to give an overall persective of the kit. But the rigging thread is testing this. 
 
Lastly, I usually try and use my own rigging thread and prefer a cotton blend rather than straight cotton thread because of the fuzz factor. I tried waxing the lines, but wasn't happy with this result. So after much consideration, I recalled something that I did years ago when I was stuck with straight cotton rigging line, I went to my wife's make up cabinet, grabbed her can of hair spray. I spray a good bit on my fingers and then run the rigging lines between my fingers a couple of times to coat them with the hair spray. It seems to tame that pesky fuzz quite nicely. Fortunately it's the spray that drys none sticky. My wife isn't too happy about the donation, but I told her I would buy her a case of the stuff if I continue to use it
 
mike   

Thanks George, I was thinking of doing a little extrapolating when it comes to the belaying locations. I was thinking of adding a belaying pin rack to each side of the stern. But upon checking the Anatomy of the Ship HMS Victory, it only shows the one belaying rack near the Mizzen mast. I'm not apposed to tying off two lines to one pin if it looks good and makes sense, but more than two is where I draw the line per say hahahahaha.
 
mike    

Bit more work done on the Vic. I have most all of the sails attached to their prospective yards with all blocks installed as well. They are about ready to be installed on the mast. Was it a major pain in the %$^*(**()&$% to keep the sails seperated as to which mast they were to go on while attaching them. A few of the sails had to be resewn due to Artesania Latina sending out the wrong sails that I was missing from the kit Like the main fore sail, they actually sent me another large Main sail. But it was worth the extra bit of work to keep from having to cut out and dew all of those sails. What a time savings. 
 
 
mike

I have run across an area that I'm finding problematic or at least to me it is......At the stern portion of the Vic, it only has one belaying pin rail, which is directly behind the mizzen mast. The problem I'm seeing is that the pin rail has at most about 8-10 belaying stations and on the rigging diagram, it shows each belaying point being utilized for any where from two to three rigging lines. I only have one line belayed to each point in the photo and as you can see, it gets quite bulked up with one line muchless two or three lines. Most ships that I have built has multiple belaying pin rails near the Mizzen mast as well as port and starboard sides of the stern section.
 
The AL kit also contains what I call a green rigging thread, to be used for most of the running rigging, I prefer a light tan or cream colored line for the running rigging, but it is what it is. I'm trying to stay as close to the kit supplied items as I can as to give an overall persective of the kit. But the rigging thread is testing this. 
 
Lastly, I usually try and use my own rigging thread and prefer a cotton blend rather than straight cotton thread because of the fuzz factor. I tried waxing the lines, but wasn't happy with this result. So after much consideration, I recalled something that I did years ago when I was stuck with straight cotton rigging line, I went to my wife's make up cabinet, grabbed her can of hair spray. I spray a good bit on my fingers and then run the rigging lines between my fingers a couple of times to coat them with the hair spray. It seems to tame that pesky fuzz quite nicely. Fortunately it's the spray that drys none sticky. My wife isn't too happy about the donation, but I told her I would buy her a case of the stuff if I continue to use it
 
mike   

I also received my copy of Anatomy of a ship HMS Victory. I had borrowed a copy of the book (hard bound) from a friend when I first started the build, but had to return it a while back. So I figured I would buy my own copy (soft cover).

I have run across an area that I'm finding problematic or at least to me it is......At the stern portion of the Vic, it only has one belaying pin rail, which is directly behind the mizzen mast. The problem I'm seeing is that the pin rail has at most about 8-10 belaying stations and on the rigging diagram, it shows each belaying point being utilized for any where from two to three rigging lines. I only have one line belayed to each point in the photo and as you can see, it gets quite bulked up with one line muchless two or three lines. Most ships that I have built has multiple belaying pin rails near the Mizzen mast as well as port and starboard sides of the stern section.
 
The AL kit also contains what I call a green rigging thread, to be used for most of the running rigging, I prefer a light tan or cream colored line for the running rigging, but it is what it is. I'm trying to stay as close to the kit supplied items as I can as to give an overall persective of the kit. But the rigging thread is testing this. 
 
Lastly, I usually try and use my own rigging thread and prefer a cotton blend rather than straight cotton thread because of the fuzz factor. I tried waxing the lines, but wasn't happy with this result. So after much consideration, I recalled something that I did years ago when I was stuck with straight cotton rigging line, I went to my wife's make up cabinet, grabbed her can of hair spray. I spray a good bit on my fingers and then run the rigging lines between my fingers a couple of times to coat them with the hair spray. It seems to tame that pesky fuzz quite nicely. Fortunately it's the spray that drys none sticky. My wife isn't too happy about the donation, but I told her I would buy her a case of the stuff if I continue to use it
 
mike   

Bit more work done on the Vic. I have most all of the sails attached to their prospective yards with all blocks installed as well. They are about ready to be installed on the mast. Was it a major pain in the %$^*(**()&$% to keep the sails seperated as to which mast they were to go on while attaching them. A few of the sails had to be resewn due to Artesania Latina sending out the wrong sails that I was missing from the kit Like the main fore sail, they actually sent me another large Main sail. But it was worth the extra bit of work to keep from having to cut out and dew all of those sails. What a time savings. 
 
 
mike

Thanks George and Paul. I'm studying the rigging plan thoroughly, which isn't bad, but I have had better rigging plans with Constructo and Mamoli models. So some educational guess work may be in order. To help with this issue, I have ordered Anatomy of the Ship HMS Victory from Amazon and expect it in a few days. Hopefully this will give me a little more guidance than just the rigging plan alone.
 
 
mike

Thanks George and Paul. I'm studying the rigging plan thoroughly, which isn't bad, but I have had better rigging plans with Constructo and Mamoli models. So some educational guess work may be in order. To help with this issue, I have ordered Anatomy of the Ship HMS Victory from Amazon and expect it in a few days. Hopefully this will give me a little more guidance than just the rigging plan alone.
 
 
mike

Cool, I was not expecting her to be in full dress, now then i'm inteding in doing the same, Mike help a buddy and put tons of pictures on, close ups too please, looking stunning and one that really fuels the debate to paint or not to paint thats for sure. Beautifully built mate.