cerberusjf

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone knew how anchors were handled on a large carrack, like the "Mary Rose"?  I saw some drawings of both a windlass and a capstan in the AOTS book of the ship, but no mention of either in the "Your noblest shippe anatomy of the Tudor warship"..  I asked at the museum at Portsmouth, but they said neither had been recovered.  Santa Maria had a capstan under the foc'sl according to reconstructions, but what about larger, later carracks?

Thanks

John

The Roman warship is now available as a part work from Hachette ccording to Amati's facebook page.  I don't see it on hachete.co.uk though..

Really well done, Daniel!  I think you're doing great things for the hobby

That's great news, I really like some of their kits. 

Sorry, I just saw your reply.  The prce list is only in Italian and can be found here:-

http://www.anb-online.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/ANB-Per-codice-2016.05.18.pdf

Hope this works.

John.

I'm not sure if it's the correct galleon from Lusci, but it could be this one found near the bottom of the list:-

plans

1403 Galeone spagnolo 6 sheets 25,50     31,11     21,70

Monograph

Just doing a little 'surfing' for rigging and came across this post.

 

The bowsprit saddle was the supporting piece that sat between the bowsprit mast and the jibboom but the piece described as 'croissant de  beaupre' or the 'bowsprit saddle' in the posting above is incorrect. That often somewhat semi-circular piece is a fairlead designed to stop lateral movement of ropes and also giving an advantage to seamen having to haul vertical ropes. Such ropes passing down the bowsprit and through the fairlead were then behaving as near-horizontal ropes allowing more seamen to haul on the rope.

 

Pete

I found it difficult to find the name of it in English, I just went with a translation I found on page 52 of this magazine, which translates "croissant de beaupre" as "bowsprit saddle".  I also saw it referred to as a "saddle".  Maybe I should have used the "croissant de beaupre" from the beginning in hindsight.

http://www.modelistasnavales.com.ar/Magazine/REVISTA-MASCARON-DE-PROA-DIGITAL-05.pdf

All his plans are available here.  They don't take credit cards unfortunately, only money transfers.  I  have no connection with them, I haven't bought form them, so cannot comment on their service.

anb-online.it

Okay, I assumed it wa only the first 40 volumes available on cd.  The p+p to the UK is more than half the cost of the cd, I think that's too much.  I think I'll wait until the articles are available to download.  At least it's not as much as the quote for p+p for a USS constitution cd, which was $80.

Thanks very much for the lead, Duff!  I tried searching for anything by Snyder on the journal search engine but nothing showed up :S .  I'm not sure about the saddle, probably because Heller supplied it

Hi, yes in hindsight I did overstate it when I said Anderson based his description on this mode, but it is the most referenced source and often the only one for French practice.  I quickly scanned through the book last night to find what Anderson found questionable on the "Royal Louis"/"Louis XV" model, or at least unusual or atypcal, and got the following:-

Bobstay p90

Double-ended attachment of the mainstay p101

Hoisting tackle multi sheaved blocks rather than fiddle blocks p108

Leading block for the forestay near the gratings, a better positon would be e.g. on the bulwarks to save lee forestay fouling the main staysail. P151

Foretacks passing through holes in the head is questionable, certainly not common p 161

Fixed sprit yard p213

I was wondering if there were more questionable details on this model?

Thanks,

John.

Thanks very much GD, in that case I feel I can omit this detail.  I was just concerned in case it was one of the details on the "Louis XV" that was an error or anachronistic.

Thanks very much for the replies, it is the "croissant de beaupre" or bowsprit saddle I was referring to.  I just went through Anderson's chapter on the "Running rigging of the bowsprit" and I can't find any mention of the bowsprit saddle.  There are several mentions of the "ratelier de beaupre" or gammoning block, but not of the saddle.  To be honest, I find Anderson to be a bit vague on specifics.  I find  it confusing that the saddle is present on the Album de Colbert drawings, but absent in Boudriot's drawings.

Hi Wayne,

thanks for the reply!  Yes, that is "Royal Louis" aka "Louis XV" the same model that R.C.Anderson based his description on.  But having read that it has many errors makes me a bit concerned about copying it.  I'd like to know what these are, then maybe decide what route to follow.  Confused :S

Hi,

I was planning on building Heller's "Soleil Royal" using R.C.Anderson's book "Rigging of ships in the days of the spritsail topsail".  He based his description of French practice on the model "Royal Louis", now known as the "Louis XV", which he later realised was from around 1720.  This model is said to have many errors and anachronisms, so I was wondering if anyone knew what these were?  One thing I'm particularly puzzling over is the saddle on the bowsprit to guide the bowsprit rigging, which is present on the "Phoenix"/Album de Colbert drawings and plans, but absent on the "Louis XV" model and on Boudriot's "le Francois" &"Ambitieux".

John.

MTaylor, I have "Belle Poule" in English, if you have any doubts about the French version, I can try to answer them.  The English version is limited stock now IIRC.

Okay thanks, in that case I think I have to forget about buying it.  A pity.

I was wondering when "Santisima Trinidad" would be released?

Thanks for posting these, they are marvellous!  Maybe it's time for me to learn Spanish

One problem maybe that different monitors show the image differently.  Could material be as white as shown in A in the period? But my guess it would be whiter than the sail canvas?  I think I might change my vote to B as the red in C is ending towards orange

I would vote C

This is a fantastic model, any news when will it be released?  I was thinking of doing exactly this ship, or one of Cleopatra's ships based on reliefs, so this kit is perfect.  This is an extremely good job, well done!