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Welcome aboard! Which schooner are you building and what scale are the plans?

Bill - I came across this listing of model steamboat plans available from John Fryant - includes the Mt. Washington as well as an email address. You may be able to reach him directly for info. johnfryant-postatsteamboats.pdf

Unfortunately, the search and index tools from the CD version won't work on my 64bit Windows 10 machine. I will pull out one of my semi-retired Windows 7 32 bit machines later today and see what I can find for you.

I stumbled across this PhD Dissertation while seeking out something entirely different. The author takes a very deep dive into the Napoleanic era looking specifically at the Portsmouth shipyard but also the broader political, financial and organizational issues of the time. Exceptional compilation of statistical information on numbers and types of vessels, manpower, shipyard staffing and resource consumption and much much more. Even for the model builder, there may be some handy tidbits to consume. Plenty of tables and figures (so not all 343 pages are text.) I am still reading it in my spare time and find her writing style easy to digest. Wilkin, Felicity Susan. 1999. “The Application of Emerging New Technologies by Portsmouth Dockyard 1790-1815.” Phd, The Open University. http://oro.open.ac.uk/58009/. Here is one figure as an appetizer!

Beautiful work so far on the planking - each of my current bulds has ground to a screeching halt as i continue to struggle getting my 2D mind to grasp 3D bends and curves! I'll be watching to see how you handle some of the curves - and hopefully I can apply the tecchniques to my builds.

Not work at all! The compilation and assessment of resource information is a hobby for me which grew out of my enjoymment of making small pieces of wood from larger pieces to then assemble into larger pieces. Here are a couple to get you started. Rasor, Eugene L. 2004. English/British Naval History to 1815: A Guide to the Literature. Greenwood Publishing Group. Rasor offers an extremely comprehensive assemblage of materials which may prove useful. Arranged topically, the 4,124 entries each include a brief commentary as well as extensive topical narratives for each section. From this you should be able to find items of interest. One downside is the lack of contemporary treatises (that is, written during the time period of interest). Goodwin, Peter. 1987. The Construction and Fitting of the English Man of War, 1650-1850. Annapolis, Md: Naval Institute Press. This book offers a deep dig into the construction and fitting out of a British warship - exceptionally detailed drawings and thoroughly researched. For more general info, there are many e-documents available as well. Brassey, Thomas. 1882. The British Navy: It’s Strength, Resources and Administration. Volume III - Opinions on the Shipbuilding Policy of the Navy. Vol. 3. 3 vols. London: Longmans, Green and Company. http://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.284950. Clowes, William Laird, and Clements R. (Clements Robert) Markham. 1897. The Royal Navy, a History from the Earliest Times to the Present Volume 1. Vol. I. London : S. Low, Marston. http://archive.org/details/royalnavyhistory01clowuoft. Hervey, Frederic. 1779. The Naval History of Great Britain: From the Earliest Times to the Rising of the Parliament in 1779. Describing, Particularly, the Glorious Atchievements in the Last War. Also the Lives and Actions of Illustrious Commanders and Navigators. Vol. 2. 5 vols. W. Adlard. James, William. 1886. The Naval History of Great Britain, from the Declaration of War by France in 1793, to the Accession of George IV : A New Ed., with Additions and Notes, Bringing the Work down to 1827. Vol. 1. Vol. 1. London : R. Bentley. http://archive.org/details/navalhistoryofg01jame. Ralfe, James. 1820. The Naval Chronology of Great Britain; Or, An Historical Account of Naval and Maritime Events from the Commencement of the War in 1803 to the End of the Year 1816 ... Whitmore and Fenn. Winfield, Rif. 2007. British Warships in the Age of Sail, 1714-1792: Design, Construction, Careers and Fates. St. Paul, Minn: Seaforth Publishing / MBI Publishing Co. ———. 2008. British Warships in the Age of Sail, 1793-1817: Design, Construction, Careers and Fates. 2nd rev. ed. Barnsley [England]: Seaforth Pub. These two Winfield volumes offer some wonderful information about many of the classes (and individual members of each class) warships during the subject timeframe. He has more, I believe, extending the coverage. Hopefully, that is enough to get you started! Good luck and please feel free to let me know if there is something special you are seeking.

Your question -and the time period of interest - are broad, to say the least! Are you interested in the design, building methods, performance, manning, equipping, feeding, handling, careers &c? Zu Mondfeld is a handy reference though not universally applicable for your time period. Also, the difference between English and French or Dutch or Iberian could be (and was) significant. Let me see what I might offer after I get my first cup of coffee.

WHile I am not sure if it will meet your needs (or be too complex in what it does), there is a free FREE free program which I have been using for some time to catalogue and index my resources (print, websites, images, downloadable articles/books and so on). https://www.zotero.org/ Here is a screenshot of my install (currently contains some 2,100 entries).

Two items of interest today! I am eagerly perusing the contents as it matches well with one are of my interests! And, exactly one year since my back injury forced me out of work, I am officially retired.

I have 2 of the 3. They are quite useful, well written, documented and researched. His Fast Sailing picks up from Chapelle's "Search for Speed" (well, sort of). Not the historic journey of his "Merchant Sail" but a tighter focus on faster (and he addresses the definitional concerns around "fast") vessel form and function.

Found it in Fincham, John. 1852. An Outline of Ship-Building. In Four Parts ... Whittaker and Company. https://books.google.com/books?id=FadWAAAAcAAJ. From PDF page 46-47. I believe this is the treatise to which Fincham is refering Bouguer, Pierre. 1746. Traité du navire, de sa construction et de ses mouvemens. Jombert. http://archive.org/details/bub_gb_lh1ZBtRvAb0C.

Sharp, I'm afraid, is probably a highly subjective term. MacGregor offers some tantalizing thoughts about early written descriptions starting with Sutherland. He doesn't offer a descrption of sharp just some related design concepts for fast ships. The most tantalizing is a reference to Bouger's rules for fast ships described in Fincham's Outline of Shipbuilding Now to find my copy on Fincham...

This is one that I have heard of but have never been able to locate. According to R.C.Anderson in the Mariner's Mirror (1947), Marion Brewington advised him there was a copy at the US Navy as you noted above. According to Worldcat, there are 3 library copies of the NRG facsimile edition - at the LOC, the Smithsonian and the San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park, Maritime Research Center. There is a single table from the document in the NRJ volume 31. I will, of course, let you know if I am ever able to locate an additional copy (or an online version of the original). Good luck!

Abstract: For millennia wooden ships that plied the world’s oceans were plagued by biological problems. These were a multifaceted result of water temperature, salinity, levels of sunlight and the quantity of nutrients in the water. Vessel hulls, in time, collected seaweed affecting their speed and maneuverability. The ship’s longevity was impacted by infestations of two marine borers: the shipworm, a wormlike clam and tiny crustaceans known as gribbles. Combined they largely destroyed the integrity of marine timber structures, often working together to bore tunnels in wood to make it spongy and friable. Countless schemes were tried over time to solve sea flora and wood-rot problems. Some produced limited success until, in the eighteenth century, a relatively simple and practical solution was found, one that would shape maritime history. The evolution of that discovery ultimately affected two American icons, one a storied ship, the other a patriot, entrepreneur and an industrial opportunist. Norton, Louis Arthur. 2019. “Copper Sheathing, Industrial Espionage and an Eminent American Entrepreneur | Coriolis: The Interdisciplinary Journal of Maritime Studies.” Coriolis - Interdisciplinary Journal of Maritime Studies 9 (2): 37–44. https://ijms.nmdl.org/article/view/20133 Enjoy!

Welcome from "way Downeast". Love the lazy Susan idea - will have to see about getting one!