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In my opinion the view distance is set by the scale that is used, which when combined with the skill of the model maker and the materials to be used will determine the detail to be included. Hinge detail at 1/96th scale, just completed and made to work - just to see if it could be done and to have fun - which is what it is all about.
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Bilge Pumps 1870/80
GAW replied to GAW's topic in Discussion for a Ship's Deck Furniture, Guns, boats and other Fittings
Thank you Frank, it appears to get temperamental at times, but if it will not open when you click the centre try closer to the edge - I just checked it and it is working fine. -
As a model maker you are an artist, you are making your IMPRESSION of what you see - if it is a very small model, then you are looking at it from a distance and will expect to see somethings and not others - as goes the same if it is a larger model - the guide is to only make what you expect to see and you will make a work of art. Go beyond that and start adding detail for details sake, and you will most likely move out of scale, and kill the whole effect. The best guides are photos of the full size subject, add the detail that you can see - if it is a hinge, but only looks like a spot, represent it as a spot and not a hinge and it will look CORRECT in the finished model. If you are an addict for detail, then pick a scale that suits your abilities and the subject, but the rule, if it be a rule, will be the same- for me that is. Check out: http://www.wworkshop.net/Other_Models/Gallery-1.html#6 http://www.wworkshop.net/Other_Models/Gallery-1.html#11
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Bilge Pumps 1870/80
GAW replied to GAW's topic in Discussion for a Ship's Deck Furniture, Guns, boats and other Fittings
Thank you Druxey, could not find that one, but no matter, I have found the Cash Book for Russell & Co ship Number 17, that gives the pump makers as R.C.Wallace & Son and I have located them in a Glasgow directory of 1878 as - R.C.Wallace & Son, Broomloan Iron Works, Campbell Street, Govan. Glasgow, engineers, patent ship pump and ship windless makers and blacksmiths. - Date/name/place/products, all match - now to find the illustrations - help most welcome. -
Bilge Pumps 1870/80
GAW replied to GAW's topic in Discussion for a Ship's Deck Furniture, Guns, boats and other Fittings
Thank you all, particularly druxey, I did not find what I am looking for, but the Mechanics Magazines were most interesting - if I could locate some nearer 1878, they might just come up with something. The pumps I am looking for have 3 chambers each - each with one fore and two aft, set side my side, the two aft chambers with pipes down to the Bilges - this would conform with the two cut outs in the deck plating on the Falls of Clyde. I have recently located a deck plan of the Falls of Garry, showing the layout of just these pumps, which incidentally discharge to the rear, unlike most other bilge pumps that discharge to the side over the pump mens feet. An interesting innovation for the welfare of the pump men for the period - unless of course they were cheaper to install or more efficient. There should be Patent drawings somewhere for this new design, I just need to locate them, and the makers name, then to his catalogue of pumps. -
Bilge Pumps - Wanted photo/illustration of bilge pumps of about 1870/80s (UK) for a rivet-plate & frame model of the centre section of the Falls of Clyde. Bilge pumps are set up in pairs being of 2 or 3 chambers set up on the main deck but in line with the keel. The pumps are missing on the Falls of Clyde, but the holes in the deck plating indicate that these two were set up with the chamber set athwart the keel. For those interested in the techniques required to build this type of model, check out ‘Current Project’ at < www.wworkshop.net >
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