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Mark, I can understand your frustration. Like most old ships that have survived for more than a 100 years Jylland has been trough several rebuilds during her lifetime and the original plans does not represent the ship as she looks today. In the case of Jylland she was a derlict hull that at one time sank while layed up in Copenhagen. The restoration did not start until the 1980s and was finished in 1994. So Billing probably did not know the deck layout of Jylland when they put out the first kit in the -70s. I have not had a cloes look at the "new" kit so I can´t tell how accurate or inaccurat it is. Anders
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Mark, I don´t have any good plans showing the masts and rigging of Jylland, but the attached picture is a sideview of the hull as built and show the masts below deck and there seems to be a slight rake to all of them.
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2 additional details: 1. for the masting white or off-yellow. 1a. Topmast black between mast top and cheeks? 2. What about the grates / other - I 'assume' white also. 1. Masts are a pale yellow as are the funnel. Topmasts look to be black, but it´s a bit hard to tell as most pictures showing the whole masts are taken from some distance. 2 Gratings. This is a bit more difficult. Looking through the pictures from my visit in 1999 most of the gratings are covered by tarps. The grating on the raised fore deck is not painted as is the one below the steering wheel. This looks to be made of teak. As for the others both gratings and skylights looks to be painted a reddish brown color. At least the base of the grate/skylight is painted, the rest is covered by tarps. In the drawing that is a postcard the gratings are painted white. This drawing depicts Jylland before she was rebuilt to serve as a transport for the Danish King as there is no raised aft deck.
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I have been looking trough my references on Jylland and it looks like she has always been black with the white stripe. As for the inside of the bulwarks these are white on Jylland as she appears today. Looking at old BW photos it looks like a very light color was used from the ship was new and my guess is it has always been white.
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Cool subject. Here is a link to some pictures of a real Miss Adventure named Phantom in Sweden. The raised engine hatch and windscreen was added a few years after the boat was built. https://www.sjoexpress.se/phantom
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Great to see you back. Those gratings are a big improvement on the kit.
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Good to see you are back at the workbench, I was a bit worried you had given up on Jylland. Anders
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Mark, her is a couple of pictures that hopefully will clarify how the stern looks. Wefalck´s plans in post #107 shows the stern as it was drawn and build in 1860 while the kit represents Jylland as she is today. In 1874 she was rebuild to take the Danish king to Iceland. This included raising the aft deck to make accommodations for the king. Fit for a king it even included a water closet.
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Mark, This book is new to me, so I have no idea if it´s any good. Anders
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As you are working on the bulwarks, here is a couple of pictures of how they look. As you will see they are quite thick and with some decoration.
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Mark, looking trough my pictures of Jylland I didn´t have much on the catheads. The ones I got is a postcard and a picture from the book on Jylland. Hopefully you will find them somewhat useful Anders
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Like many other ships Jylland was modified and rebuilt during her active life. Two of the pictures below show how she looked from the outset with only a small cabin all the way at the back end of the main deck. Sorry for the bad quality of the pictures. They pictures of old analog photos taken with my cellphone. You can order the book about Jylland here: https://www.bogtorvet.net/historien-om-fregatten-jylland_kure-bernt_1666840 As for the figurehead you have a challenge.......
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Mark, the planking on Jylland is quite noticeable even from a distance. When I built my hull 25 years ago I double planked it with an outer layer of 4 mm wide planks of thin plywood to simulate the look of the real ship. Here are some photos of the bulkhead for the rear cabin. This cabin by the way was not a part of the original design. It was added when the Danish king Christian IX was visiting Iceland in 1874.
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Great progress. The propellor lifting mechanism is a quite cool part of the design. Here is a couple of pictures of how it looks on deck and down below. The metal nett is probably added in modern time for security as Jylland is a museum ship. I have more pictures so if you are in need of information on any particular part of the ship just let me know and I will see what I have. Another info channel is the Facebook group "Fregatten Jylland" Anders
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Hi, when I found your build log for Jylland it brought back som memories. I started building the old Billing Jylland many years ago and like you I found the kit to be quite incorrect. When time came for coppering the bottom the build just stopped and it´s been sitting on a shelf in my shop ever scince. In 1999, on a jobtrip to Denmark I was able to visit Jylland in Ebeltoft. During my visit I took quite a few (analog) pictures and also bought some quite nice postcards showing different details of the ship. As you will see from the attached pictures the bow section of the hull is a bit different from the kit. This area is open so you can see down on the heads from the foredeck above. If you want more detaild photos and plans of Jylland I can recomend two books by Danish author Bernt Kure called "Historien om Fregatten Jylland" (The history of the frigate Jylland) and "Livet om bord på Fregatten Jylland" (Life on board the frigate Jylland). They are written in Danish but includes lots of pictures and several plans of the ship. I don´t think these books are available new but you may find them in online second hand bookstores like here: https://www.bogtorvet.net/historien-om-fregatten-jylland_kure-bernt_1888495 -Anders
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