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@rwiederrich since cropping is allowed, I took off some white space on your first optional Glory of the Seas comparison photo (which I personally consider one of your best). Here are my 8 selections for your Great Republic in the same order as the ones selected for Glory of the Seas. You can explain in a short note for each submission that since both models are permanently mounted that these are the best angles you havea available. I have 1 suggestion for an optional but haven't yet been able to select 3 other optional photos for this second model.
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Rob, I'll gladly do all preliminary submission work for you and then send it to you so all you have to do is pay online and submit application forms. I strongly feel like the strength of your beautiful model will overcome any inexactitudes of precise positions. I also feel this is bigger than just your model. This is a cumulation of over a decade of joint research, involving Michael Mjelde, his daughter Arina and an ultimate realization of intensive research begun 60 years ago by author Michael Mjelde. It's a way to finally display a real Donald McKay clipper in her true glory. Something you know we're both passionate about. In this case I firmly believe you shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good ... 8 model photo positions (1) port midships abeam (2) starboard midships abeam (3) overall model from dead ahead (4) overall model dead astern (5) stern port quarter diagonal with deck (6) stern starboard qtr diagonal w deck (7) bow port quarter diagonal with deck (8) bow starboard qtr diagonal w deck 4 optional model photos (1) model with historic photo (2) starboard bow model with actual ship (3) port stern model with actual ship (4) Ariana, Michael and Rob with model Later on, I will share the same selections for your Great Republic
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@MrBlueJacket Thanks for catching my dumb mistake. I would be mortified if anyone would be discouraged from submitting their model due this ridiculously wrong post. FYI: I have since corrected the mistake.
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@rwiederrich @Luis Felipe @Vladimir_Wairoa to avoid any further confusion, I've attached pretty much all of the rules verbatim from the NRG website. As you can see, no one is expected to write any lengthy description of their work. The description CANNOT exceed 500 WORDS. A single line is acceptable, if that's all a person wants to write. In addition, all photos are submitted anonymously with no personal identification whatsoever. Essentially for 30 bucks per model, anyone can have their work evaluated by a 3 judge panel and afterwards be given personal critique.
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D'oh! I can't believe I made that dumb mistake. It's been corrected. The correct phrase is "up to but no more than 500 WORDS" definitely not pages....
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https://wetransfer.com is a free website specified in the NRG Photographic Model Ship Competition rules to upload model pictures. Use this email to upload photos: nrgphotocontest2025@gmail.com
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Rob, Samples provided are clearly staged photos of a finished model with no shop background. That's probably optimal. There is no mention of background requirements. However, I looked at all prior winning Apprentice Journeyman and Master gold, silver and bronze contest entries from 2011, 2013, 2015 and 2021. All were taken against clear backgrounds. I did my best to locate 8 scenes closest to samples even if that included shop images. For your Great Republic my feeling is if it comes to submitting shop scenes or nothing (since you said you can't take any more pictures of her) I'm in favor of sending in what you have. Than you can explain in up to 500 words why you couldn't submit staged pictures like the samples indicate. Of course, if you could somehow access both finished models and take new pictures to exactly match 8 samples, that would be best for your chances.
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Rob, Did you get the pdf application and rules documents I messaged you, along with all of the images sent?
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@rwiederrich @Luis Felipe @Vladimir_Wairoa NRG Photographic Model Ship Competition, 8 required picture samples enlarged. A few observations of samples: good lighting to capture all details, plain background not to distract from model and entire model is centered in each picture. Submission deadline is July 31, 2025. All details are available in the green banner at the top of each MSW page. (1) amidship deck level port broadside (2) amidship deck level starboard broadside (3) above stern port quarter (4) above stern starboard quarter (5) above bow port quarter (6) above bow starboard quarter (7) dead ahead bow (8) dead ahead stern In addition each submission can include 4 optional photos of a modeler's choice. Let me know if there's anything I can help you guys with. Rob with 50 years' experience is a Master, Luis depending on how many other models built could be Journeyman to Master and Vlad with two finished clipper ships would most likely be Apprentice. It means you could each possibly win in your category.
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@rwiederrich @Vladimir_Wairoa @Luis Felipe Deadline for submissions is much closer than I first expected: July 31, 2025. Contest rules are pretty simple: (1) current NRG membership, if not current it's 1/2 price to become a member. (2) $30 entry fee per model entered. (3) minimum 8 specific photos + 4 optional ones of the modeler's choice. Each mandatory position is listed in contest rules and I've attached samples of entry requirements. (4) An up to 500 word description of the model. I'll review your online images to see if all positions are already available and let you know if any still need to be supplied.
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@Luis Felipe I'm going to review each of your models and select what to my eye puts your craftsmanship to best light. Since I didn't build any of these, each of you will have final say on selections.
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Rob, from a photographer's viewpoint it's probably not the most desirable since Arina's not entirely in the picture. Still from an emotional one, this is one of my favorites since to me it symbolizes "A Dream Realized." I'll keep looking for more images.
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@rwiederrich @Vladimir_Wairoa @Luis Felipe all three of you have created wonderful replicas worthy of entering this NRG Photographic Model Ship Competition (details are in the green banner at the top of this page). I would be more than willing to assist in making selections. That is, if you want any suggestions. Personally I think you all have some incredible models to share.
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Rob, That's a clever reuse of ordinary objects.
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Rob, I seriously believe that the detailed observations of Scottsman, sailor and newspaper journalist Duncan McLean are our greatest ally in accurately envisioning the appearance of these magnificent ships. While I'm convinced the author really didn't appreciate gold leaf, carved embellishments he was fastidious in his highly detailed recitations of a vessel's construction. This tendency is consistent for every vessel he described whether they came from the McKay shipyard or not. Our efforts to reinterpret these factual descriptions is leading to more accurately built authentic replicas.
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@rwiederrich I'm pretty sure that the removal of the additional Flying Cloud splash rail brought up a lengthy, silly discussion of the use of such rails including "ahem" certain necessary yet disgusting bodily functions. I suppose I should "mosey" on down to the other site and supply the sensible answer to them....
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Meanwhile I found an interesting pair of articles in The Portland Press Herald which I thought you might enjoy. The first is on a 1934 discovery of an ancient ship's bell caught in a fisherman's net. It turned out to be from the 1855 clipper Noonday built by Fernald & Pettigrew, who's shipyard was on Badger Island, Pistaqua River, Kittery, Maine. The distinctive shape and mount reminded me of the one you crafted for Staghound. They're both very close. The second article was about another now famous smaller clipper Snow Squall. There's another beautiful JE Buttersworth piece. The main subject "Clipper ship Warner rounding Cape Horn" features a background clipper, considered to be the last painting of Snow Squall. Update: after noticing that "Old Glory" was in color, I used an app on my phone to enhance colors in the Noonday painting. Here's the result:
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Rob, I didn't mean to suggest adding the splash rail early. I was simply thinking of an answer to a question of another observer who was questioning the need for such an extra rail only at the forecastle.
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@rwiederrich Rob, she's coming together quickly now that you're recovered. Even though it's years since I've done any model building, I appreciate you sharing your step-by-step building procedures with accompanying photos. I think I know why there's a forecastle splash rail. As we saw on Glory of the Seas there appears to be a similar waterway installed on the forecastle. The splash rail adds bulwark protection.
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Rob, I gather you're sufficiently recovered from your kidney stones, which is a relief to learn. Peggy took one look at your Staghound hull and said that's a pretty ship! Of course, she's right.
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On the last day of our 40th Anniversary vacation, on the way home from Stonington I went to the Mystic Seaport Museum, South Entrance. On the 2nd floor of the Stillman building is an exhibit "From Clippers to Carriers." Ed Tosti's spectacular 1853 Webb, NY clipper Young America build is on display. Other 1:72nd scale replicas by Carl Davis are the 1850 Webb built packet Isaac Webb the Mystic, CT clipper David Crockett as well as the 1883 Bath, Maine Downeaster Benjamin F Packard. My sweet wife Peggy waited in the car so I was as efficient as possible to cover the entire floor. Other than one couple who soon left, the room was empty. That made my goal of documenting the sail portion of the exhibit much easier. I have additional photos of the entire sail based portion of the display but to save time didn't take pictures of the modern cargo carriers. It doesn't seem appropriate to post the rest on Ed's build log.
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@Rick310 not to be curmudgeonly but just to set the record straight for everybody Staghound had neither headboards nor trailboards. What your seeing are navel hoods. They're also different from naval hoods which apparently were intended to protect wooden hawse holes before the advent of wrought iron ones made them unnecessary. Navel hoods are actually an extension of the ship's hull while naval hoods do not. Earlier in this build there's a picture of the bow of clipper Seaman's Bride from below. You can clearly see how her headboards and trailboards leave a lot of open space while Donald McKay's design is solid.
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Rob, pain sucks and certainly makes the days longer. My sis-in-law says the agony of passing kidney stones is worse than childbirth. You have my sympathies and prayers for a speedy recovery.
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Rob, It continually impresses me how rapidly you work. Staghound is shaping up to be one beautiful clipper.
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Rob, I've read that same conclusion too. Meanwhile 1851 Flying Cloud McKay's second extreme California clipper twice set the record anchor to anchor from NY to San Francisco which was never surpassed by another three masted vessel. In 1859-60 the 1855 Mystic, CT built Belle Hoxie renamed Andrew Jackson beat her time NY to the Farallon Islands, entry point to the San Francisco Bay in 89 days, 4 hours. However, lack of an available pilot boat resulted in her anchor to anchor time being longer, resulting in 89 days, 20 hours. Since Flying Cloud twice set records anchor to anchor with her fastest complete passage being 89 days, 8 hours anchor to anchor, that standard applied to all other ships. Her record stood for 135 years until the yacht Thursday's Child finally beat her in 1989. And yet, some nautical scholars still insist that the only extreme clipper Donald McKay ever launched was Staghound.
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