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Hi Glen Thanks for the welcome. I have just started my build log, in scratch builds 17 to 1800 I know there is not much there yet but let me know what you think so far. Really I am making it up as I go along. Tim
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So I found small piece of 2.4 mm thick plywood in the workshop, no idea where or when I got it. Printed out the keel and frame, glued it to the plywood with a no-name brand spraymount glue and attacked it with the scroll saw. I was please with how it came out, not bad even if I do say so myself. The frame seems pretty strong, even though its only 2x2 mm square at the top at 1:24 that 2x2 inches which is to scale The problem is I have no more of the 2.4 mm ply and no where local seems to sell it. The 2 mm stuff is way to floppy and 3 mm looks out of scale I did try some 2.4 mm Obeche I had, but at this size it just snapped like a twig I glued it back together, you can just see the glue line on the left. But I think it may be too delicate to use. The frame at the back is the first plywood test stained down. Tim
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Hi Dunnock ( David ) Thanks for the best wishes, I will need all the luck I can find along the way. I always was the foolhardy type, straight in with both feet. I used to to run a model making company called 'Risky Ventures' we would take on projects nobody else would touch. I can remember going to meetings and saying 'of course we can do that' then getting back and thinking how the xxx are we going to get that made............ Thanks for the links to the wood suppliers, when I stop hacking all the Basswood, maybe I will order some.
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Having nearly completed bashing a Deans Marine kit of an RC Destroyer, HMS Lightning, I started looking for a new project. I always loved the look of the wonderful wooden Men of War that I had seen at the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich in my youth. Sadly I do not think I’m ready to build one of those yet, so looking around the MSW website and reading loads of build logs in decided I would build a ships boat to help build up my skills. Both Allanyed and imustbecrazy inspired me to start this log, I have been hanging around on their logs over the last few days. The build logs of the Shipways 1:16 launch by Cap'nRatFink and keithW have also been invaluable in helping to decide what to build. Then there is of course Chuck Passaro's and his wonderful Medway Longboat kit, I wish I could afford that one. For better or worse I decided to go down the scratch build slipway. So I downloaded a lines drawing from NMM numbered ZAZ7848, this is alleged to be a copy of the drawing used to build the actual launch for HMS Bounty. Having used Fusion 360 for several years now I was comfortable in being able to import the drawing and produce a design that would enable me to make a scale model in wood. At first my idea was to output some g-code from the CAM section in Fusion and produce the keel and frames using my small CNC router. After a bit of test cutting on my scroll saw, I realized with something this simple I could do it as easily by hand. Also by doing it manually I would learn a lot more about working with wood which is sadly lacking in my skill set. So here we are with the drawing nicely hand traced in Fusion with the frames ready to export as DXF files to print out and scroll cut by hand.
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Thanks Mark, When you say large, Is there a size restriction? Tim
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Thanks for the welcome Andrew Tim
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Thanks Allan See you over in your Bounty Launch topic.
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Thanks to Ken, Dave and both Marks for the welcomes. Looks like I need to start a build log and pretty soon. Are phone photos good for logs? Tim
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I have found you can also calibrate the canvas to a scale ( say 1:24 ) and work directly at that scale in the sketch. You only really need a single measurement on the drawing, you then calculate the scale size and enter that number in the box, presto you have a scale drawing. hope that made sense... Tim
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Hi John thanks for the warm welcome. I was just down under in October, visiting "Rellies" in Sydney and Melbourne. It's a shame we missed each other. Tim
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Hi Mark Thanks for the welcome, if you come to Hereford look up our model club HSME ( open am. Tues and Sat ) near the Waterworks Museum. Most of the members seem to be fixated with making little steam trains but there are a few sensible chaps here that are building boats and ships I am gathering my ideas and photos to start the log. Tim
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Hi Lyle Thanks for the welcome and the information, still finding my way around. I have managed to change my profile image, woo hoo Tim
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Thanks for the welcome Edward and Keith I already have a couple of questions Is there anyway to get notifications of replies to posts? How do I find out how to post photos? Tim
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Thanks to Patrick and Jim for the welcome. Looking forward to some armchair advice, this weather I may well be in a cosy armchair myself. The workshop is freezing. Tim
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Hi a new recruit from chilly Herefordshire UK saying hello. Quick run down, I am a long time model maker, up to this point mainly in metal / plastic, I did have a go at making plywood speed boat when I was about 11 yrs old which was 60 years ago so I have a lot of catching up to do with working with wood at a small scale. I recently finished a brass Copernican Orrey which took some 5 years from start to finish. While looking for a new project, the guys at my local model club suggested making an RC ship so I purchased a Deans Marine Destroyer kit, with GRP hull, laser cut styrene superstructure and photo etched detail parts. Which I have almost finished, it floats and can be steered around the club’s pond, I now need to add the detail. So I am now looking again for a project to keep me busy, one of the club members makes the most amazing 3 masted sailing vessels, he suggested something like that as a next project. I know I don’t have the skills in woodwork to take a project like that yet. Then I found this amazing website and group. Having a good look around, I have been very taken with the small boat projects shown on here, one of those small boats could be good start for me to learn and hone my skills, something like the ‘Bounty Launch’ or Chuck Passaro’s Medway longboat. Not to big, not too small, a ‘Goldilocks’ project. There are a couple of problems with that, cash to get the kit, I am retired and living on the UK state pension, then there is the availability of kits here in the UK. Not to be put off I decided there was enough information around to scratch build a small boat. I hope to be mixing ideas from kits and build logs. Having used CAD / CAM for many years, I downloaded the original bounty launch drawings from the National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, imported it into Fusion 360, hand traced the parts to produce a full 3D model first which may help me to get a feel for the model I hope to make in wood. Then I found the discussion started by allanyed with imustbecrazy on ‘Bounty ships boats details’ which has got me all fired up. I am now plank counting….. is there no hope, am I lost to this crazy world. Should I start a build log, I really don’t know what I am doing. I will be playing with ideas that may not work, there will be more questions than solutions. Are photos of roughly chopped up bits of wood as prototypes really of any interest? Which section would the log go in? anyway, I think I could have a great time being part of this community. Tim Coupland
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