twebb Posted June 10, 2015 #1 Posted June 10, 2015 Hi folks, I decided to update my drafting skill-set and started looking at model engineering as an avenue. Although retired from aerospace, I have always had an interest in boats and ships. At this point in time, not really interested in model ship fabrication, but drafting and modelling efforts. I PM'd Wayne Kempson regarding his article 'Drafting Ship Plans in CAD, A Basic Introduction', I told Wayne that I felt his article was very interesting (although there was much that I did not understand) and a good starting point for me. I also asked Wayne his recommendation for a fairly easy plan to start with. Wayne sent me a very friendly response and advised to start with one of the ships from the Anatomy of the Ship series. He also recommended this forum as an invaluable resource. I went to the library and was able to check out AOS HMS Beach. Man, I'm excited now! I've got the profile, half-breadth and body plans. Very clear and readable. I'm ready to scan into .jpg and then import into TurboCAD. This is where the wheels come off. The profile and half-breadth plan cover two pages. I can't scan properly without tearing out the pages (can't do that, it's a library book) and the book will not lie flat on the scanner. The gap between the two pages leave some doubt as to where the edge of the figure actually is!!! So my rookie question - where can go on the internet to download the 3 plans (profile, half-breadth and body) needed to get through Wayne's tutorial? I'm not worried about any the type of vessel, I just need some useable .jpg files. To me this is a drafting exercise and an effort gain some knowledge about ship construction and terminology. Thank you so much for your time! Ted SE Queensland, Australia Quote
mtaylor Posted June 10, 2015 #2 Posted June 10, 2015 Ted, If you just want something to practice with, have a look at this article: http://modelshipworldforum.com/resources/plans_and_research/InterpretingLineDrawings.pdf Russ explains the meaning of the lines and there's a simple set of plans. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
twebb Posted June 10, 2015 Author #3 Posted June 10, 2015 Mark, Thank you! That plans should work just fine and there is great information in the file. Nice work! Ted mtaylor 1 Quote
mtaylor Posted June 11, 2015 #4 Posted June 11, 2015 That's good to hear, Ted. I hope it goes well and you have fun. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
twebb Posted June 12, 2015 Author #5 Posted June 12, 2015 Mark, Small hic-cup! Russell's .pdf file has some of the text missing on the far left hand side (readers view) of the OUTBOARD PROFILE. Probably not important, but I'm not sure. Russell indicates this figure is from a Model Shipways plan. Would you happen to know the name of the ship this plan represents? I thought I might be able to get the missing text from the Model Shipways site if I knew the name of the ship. Thanks, Ted Quote
mtaylor Posted June 12, 2015 #6 Posted June 12, 2015 Ted, I really don't know much about where that plan came from. You might try PM'ing "Russ" as he's the author. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Mahuna Posted June 12, 2015 #7 Posted June 12, 2015 Hi Ted It looks like the labels for the waterlines on the plan Russ is using for an example are truncated on the sheer plan, but the text of the document is whole. If this is what you're referring to, I don't think anything else is really missing. If you're missing some of the actual text then I would suspect some issues on your end - I can see Russ's complete text. Frank mtaylor 1 Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
twebb Posted June 12, 2015 Author #8 Posted June 12, 2015 Frank, Thank you for the reply. My issue was with the drawing, not with the text. I have contacted Russ and he graciously helped me out with the missing bit and answered a query about W5 on the Outboard profile. Seems like with everyone I meet on this forum there is some kind of connection. Russ is located in Biloxi - I used to live in Biloxi. Terry (CDR_Ret) lives in Greenville S.C. - I used to live in Greenville S.C. You are in Sun Lakes , AZ - I don't know where Sun Lakes is located. But I did live in Tucson, AZ while based at Davis-Monthan(sp) AFB in the late 1960's, my oldest daughter was born in Tucson. It is indeed a small world! Ted SE Queensland, Australia mtaylor 1 Quote
Mahuna Posted June 13, 2015 #9 Posted June 13, 2015 Sun Lakes is the southern part of Chandler - if you remember Riggs Rd off I-10, it's right off that. I used to go through Greenville for work - flew in (from New Jersey) and drove down to Anderson. So you've lived in Biloxi, Greenville, and Tucson - and now you're in Australia! Sounds like some good stories there! Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
twebb Posted June 13, 2015 Author #10 Posted June 13, 2015 Frank, You're right! Lots of good stories! The majority of my working career was spent either in the military or supporting the military as a Texas Instruments Field Service Engineer. Lots of travel, friends and stories! Ted Quote
justsayrow Posted June 14, 2015 #11 Posted June 14, 2015 Ted, check out http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/booklets-of-general-plans-online/ They have one set of lines: for BB-45 COLORADO. A lot of other plans that you might reverse engineering into lines plans once you're dialed in. r/ Jerry Quote ==================================== Currently building: Model Expo AMERICA, A/L KING OF THE MISSISSIPPI Completed: Mamoli Victory cross-section, Revell LSM (Plastic, in memory of Dad), A/L SANSON tug, MS Longboat (awesome model Chuck!), Dumas 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Racing runabout, A/L SWIFT, MS ELSIE, Constructo ELIDIR (now LOUISE), Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack, Amati 1:80 Yacht ENDEAVOUR, Mamoli CONSTITUTION cross section, Revell VIIc U-boat (1:72 plastic), lotsa other plastic ships Next up: who knows - there are too many to choose from!
twebb Posted June 16, 2015 Author #12 Posted June 16, 2015 Jerry, Thanks for the link. Looks like a good resource. Take care. Ted Quote
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