Stern timber scantlings

[Mark P]

Greetings everyone;

 

Can anyone point me to a good source for the scantlings of the stern timbers in a 74 gun ship,  built in the first half of the 1780s. 

 

I can find an entry in a contract I have which specifies that the counter timbers should be 10" sided,  but no other dimensions are given.  Goodwin,  rather frustratingly,  gives a range of fractions to multiply parts of the stern by to obtain other parts,  but he does not give a starting dimension to which I can apply these factors to begin the process.

 

The establishment lists do not mention them either,  as far as I can determine.

 

I could guess at them being the same as a toptimber,  or fourth futtock perhaps,  but that has no basis in fact.

 

All the best,

 

Mark P

[trippwj]

Are they in Scantlings of Royal Navy Hips by Allan Yedlinsky?

 

 

[Mark P]

Thanks Wayne;

 

They might be.  I don't have this book,  as I have (or thought I had) a complete list of scantlings for both the vessels I am currently working on.  Only realised there's a bit of a gap when I reached the stern timbers.

 

I have found everything I need in Steel's 'Vade Mecum',  of which I have a pdf copy I downloaded from the Bodleian Library in Oxford (which incidentally,  is a much better copy than Google's own one)

 

Although he is a bit later,  I think that his lists are based on earlier practices,  and I can use his scantlings for a 74's stern without worry.

 

All the best,

 

Mark P

[allanyed]

Mark

 

The following is a page from Scantlings of Royal Navy Ships that may help.  I assume you were speaking of the counter timbers. Note that the Shipbuilder's Repository (1788) does not have all the dimensions Steel shows. 

Thanks for the plug Wayne. 

Allan

 

[Mark P]

Thanks Allan;

 

Looks like a useful book.  I shall have to get a copy.

 

All the best,

 

Mark P