JohnB Posted July 10, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 10, 2013 I'm presently building my latest ship, the Benjamin Latham fishing schooner from Model Shipways and have a question about mast hoops. Were they painted and if so what color? Also, if I decide to add sails to the ship how were they attached to the mast hoops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BareHook Posted July 10, 2013 Share #2 Posted July 10, 2013 I ended up blackening the hoops on my AVS being cast metal, but I believe hoops were made of wood and possibly served (wrapped) with a small diameter natural color line. Ken Quote Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat Completed Build: MS AVS On Shelf: AL Independence, Blue Jacket Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4whelr Posted July 10, 2013 Share #3 Posted July 10, 2013 JohnB, In Chapelle's The American Fishing Scooners 1825-1935 he states the hoops were made of Ash with 3 copper rivets each. Hope this helps. Eddie Quote <p><span style="font-size:12px;"><strong>"Be yourself. Everyone else is taken." - Oscar Wilde</strong></span></p><br /> <p> </p><br /> <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='<a class='bbc_url' href='http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2720-elsie-by-4whelr-modelshipways/#entry73752'>http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2720-elsie-by-4whelr-modelshipways/#entry73752</a>'><span style="font-size:12px;"><strong>Current Build - Elsie</strong></span></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted July 14, 2013 Thanks for the info. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted July 15, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 15, 2013 I believe they were also tarred so they would slip easily on the mast. In MSW 1.0 there was a discussion about this. There was also several suggestions on how to make them. For my Bluenose I stitched them to the bolt rope. I also stained them a very dark walnut stain. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpsutton2 Posted July 15, 2013 Share #6 Posted July 15, 2013 Although they are in black & white almost every picture I have seen from that period shows the hoops as lighter than the masts. The masts were pine and spruce treated with oil. So it was lighter than that. I too have read thant they were of ash which is a pale wood Quote Drown you may, but go you must and your reward shall be a man's pay or a hero's grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanasis Posted July 16, 2013 Share #7 Posted July 16, 2013 I had answer the second part of your question in the previous MSW... I think the below sketch should help you. Thanks Quote https://www.naftotopos.gr/index.php/el/ There are no bad or good model makers. There are only less or more experienced. In gallery Tsernikoperama - Trechandiri Brachera - Bombarda Sabatiera -Tserniki vessel rigged as Penna - NE Aegean Sea Tserniki -Tserniki of Mykonos Island -Tserniki of Mytilene Island -Trechandiri-schooner rigging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeler12 Posted July 17, 2013 Share #8 Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Metal, no (too heavy and not necessary). Tar, no (too sticky and not necessary) Wood varnished or painted, yes. Lashed to rings in the spanker sail. Edited July 17, 2013 by Modeler12 Quote Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BareHook Posted July 17, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 17, 2013 Methinks I need to paint my hoops a light wood color. Glad this came up before I assembled them onto the mast. Ken Quote Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat Completed Build: MS AVS On Shelf: AL Independence, Blue Jacket Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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