Rigging a capstan

[Edward Stein]

I would like to do the rigging for the capstan on the Wappen von Hamburg.  I cannot find any pictures that shows it. Any ideas would be appreciated. 

[Dziadeczek]

Why did you enclose plans for the USS Constitution?

This link   Ship Model Laboratory - Centre for Maritime Archaeology and Conservation - Texas A&M University (tamu.edu)  explain the whole process well, and even though it doesn't apply to the Wappen von Hamburg, but the principle is the same.

[ah100m]

USS Constitution with two gun decks?

[Edward Stein]

I'm sorry about that.  The Wappen is hanging over the Constitution.

[allanyed]

Happy New Year Edward,

Can you tell us which Wappen von Hamburg is this supposed to be as there were four from the 17th and 18th centuries, 1669, 1686, 1722, and 1740?    The information on the site given at Texas A&M is probably inappropriate depending on which one you are building as messengers and nippers were not used until about 1740.  (Harland Capstans and Windlasses p.66 and Lavery Arming and Fitting English Ships of War p. 47)

Cheers

Allan

 

[Edward Stein]

21 hours ago, allanyed said:

Happy New Year Edward,

Can you tell us which Wappen von Hamburg is this supposed to be as there were four from the 17th and 18th centuries, 1669, 1686, 1722, and 1740?    The information on the site given at Texas A&M is probably inappropriate depending on which one you are building as messengers and nippers were not used until about 1740.  (Harland Capstans and Windlasses p.66 and Lavery Arming and Fitting English Ships of War p. 47)

Cheers

Allan

 

It's Corel's Wappen von Hamburg I 1667.

[allanyed]

Edward

There were changes to the capstans themselves at the time of your ship.  I have no contemporary information on German ships, but about 1670 the forward capstans on British two deckers  (from Deane's  Doctrine 1670) had a single head capstan on the lower gun deck aft of the main mast and a double capstan near midships with one on the lower gun deck without a trundle head for bars and one on the upper gun deck that did have a drum head and openings for bars, quite different than what the kit drawing shows.   I am not sure if a viol line (something of a predecessor to the messenger) was used at that time or if ships of your size had the hawser go directly around the lower deck capstan.  Hopefully some members here have contemporary information on the proper rigging of the lines themselves.

Allan

  

Edited January 2, 2022 by allanyed